Three-day ban on Reddit for “hate”

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The only thing I can think of is posting on a UK sub about male violence. A man said that it’s not just men who have a problem with being violent because he’d been assaulted by a trans woman. I replied, “how did you know your assailant was trans?”.

They literally have subs for men to masturbate to videos of women who have a look of being “dead behind the eyes” they’ve been abused so much.

(It’s either that or somebody doesn’t like my crochet advice).

You know fine well I am talking about the rapists, not the furries. The rapists who may well pretending to be trans to gain access to vulnerable women. Why do you want to deny these people exist?

Thanks for answering.
How can you be sure it's not your irrational fear and hatred of trans-maxxers that prevents you from seeing that being a trans-maxxer is just another axis of human diversity, and that it is extremely painful, violent and oppressive to require a person to hide/ suppress the fact that they are a trans-maxxer?

Readers note:

There is no scientific evidence that a person who believes they are the opposite sex is materially the opposite sex.

A 'trans experience' does not equate to a male person who believes they are female in any way, being a female in any way. Because that is not possible despite any person declaring that it is possible because a person with a transgender identity says it is so.

No not that experience, this experience here, the one I'm pointing to, not the one that proliferates across the web.

Exactly.

And since it is an identity based purely on a person believing they are transgender, then if this group and the 130+ other genders that never get discussed are just as valid as the ones that seem to be the focus of those who need to focus on the two binary transgender identities to support their arguments.

There’s a tonne of actual evidence that males are actually female? Or just testimonies from males who think they are female.

Like people who think they have seen God or had their prayers answered.

LostCat, do you really think the women here haven't spoken to, quite literally, thousands of trans people??

There are at least 5000 posts on this very site from women who have been married to transwomen (your trans lesbians).

Transwomen have been visiting this site for at least ten years, relating their experience.

And the journey of almost everybody reading only goes one way and talking to transwomen only accelerates it.

why do you think the term 'operation: let them speak' was coined in the first place?

Are you saying all the male people currently in jail who identify as being transgender who have convictions for sexual crimes are not trans?

Is that one of the definitive tests? If a male person has a conviction for a sex crime they are deemed to be not transgender, just as transmaxxers are not transgender?

Yes, you’d need a separate post for all the dismissal attempts, helle, although they do follow a pattern.

I’m intrigued, though, at you thinking that these are a series of different posters rather than a regular name-changer, despite the similarities in approach.

The approach is remarkably similar to a regular poster (can’t remember the user name) during the period when dadjoke used to post a lot, the poster who was constantly defending Starmer and attacking kjk was always posting, and fwr became some kind of online proxy campaign zone for reform v the tories v Labour.

If you’re right about it being a series of different posters, it makes me wonder where are they getting the script from and what’s their motivation in coming on here. Is fwr-baiting some kind of “level unlocked” challenge which gives admission to the inner circle of an online group, or something.

Of course it’s possible for a trans person to be both trans and a criminal- as with any other characteristic the two are not mutually exclusive.
But a) most trans people are not criminals.
b) men don’t need to pretend to be trans to rape women .

This is a good summary Datun.

Let's not forget that there is no systemic misogyny in any male redefining the words female people use while then demonising those who call it all, while reframing what has been posted to be aimed at individuals when it was a collective observation. While then weaponising misogyny to shame women who disagree with that poster. (and again, it was not just one poster doing this)

Can someone clear up exactly what a transmaxxer is? I believe it's men who transition to get more chance of having sex? But does that mean it's sex with men?

I imagine some of them want to be "lesbians" @Datun

But a) most trans people are not criminals.

Just like other men and women. Most men, including "trans women" are not criminals.

most people are not criminals whether they are trans or not.

Correct.

I forgot the one that despite giving them access to vulnerable women everywhere, including those who are naked, or incarcerated, it's not worth men pretending to be trans in order predate on women, because they can do it anyway.

Seriously, the affinity for women just bursts off the screen doesn't it!

Do you remember the transmaxxer who dropped by to educate us?

If I remember correctly, any sex was better than no sex.

It we can agree on that, then we can have the conversation about your concern. I suppose we’d have to first establish whether it is a concern that has a significant risk , or just a fear/ projection / fantasy that comes from fear of change. Then once we have established if it is a risk, we can have a conversation about what sort of safeguards might need to be in place to identify one group from the other.

I don’t agree with the laughing react emoji but kind of get why some posters might respond similarly to a patronising and confusing comment like this one.

If all trans women are women @Lostcat (a statement that I believe you’ve made), there can be no ‘two’ groups. No identifying one group from another. No safeguards to be put in place. According to your declarations, any concern or examples posted by others expressed here can only be fear/projection/fantasy.

Because, according to the assertion that ‘all trans women are women’ means TW have unrestricted access to ALL female spaces. No safeguards needed or allowed. Indeed, how do you stop women from accessing women’s spaces?

Is this not what you’ve been precisely advocating for nearly 32 pages??

Got it.

Oh right, 'course 😄

most people are not criminals whether they are trans or not.

Correct

Yes

So, they ARE transgender?

So they also display the general propensity, at least, to commit sex crime compared to the general UK male population?

Therefore for safeguarding purposes they should be treated just like the rest of the UK male population and not as if they are female people.

OR

They need to have special safeguarding protocols developed to suit their specific level of risk and not as if they are female people.

Either way ... 'gender' is not the predictor of their behaviour for this risk assessment it is sex. So.... sex is not just important for medical decisions. It is also important for safeguarding.

Of course. But it doesn’t logically follow from that that men do not pretend to be trans to gain access to vulnerable women and girls in non-trivial numbers. And the evidence says that they do - see Helleofabore’s post at 10.37.

The only other interpretation of those stats is that transwomen are particularly prone to being rapists.

Remember, I am only posting these facts in response to your assertion that there’s scant evidence of men claiming to be transwomen accessing women’s spaces to harm women and girls. I am not saying anything about transwomen as a class. My point is about men.

It we can agree on that, then we can have the conversation about your concern. I suppose we’d have to first establish whether it is a concern that has a significant risk , or just a fear/ projection / fantasy that comes from fear of change. Then once we have established if it is a risk, we can have a conversation about what sort of safeguards might need to be in place to identify one group from the other.I

Operation let them speak. Never fails.

Women saying no is not enough, let me first decide whether or not it's justified.

No, it isn't.

😁

The tabloid media often massively exaggerates what are essentially non stories- like children who think they are furries etc

that poster was talking about the rape and sexual assault of women and children and you've made it into the media exaggerating non -stories?