Three-day ban on Reddit for “hate”

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The only thing I can think of is posting on a UK sub about male violence. A man said that it’s not just men who have a problem with being violent because he’d been assaulted by a trans woman. I replied, “how did you know your assailant was trans?”.

They literally have subs for men to masturbate to videos of women who have a look of being “dead behind the eyes” they’ve been abused so much.

(It’s either that or somebody doesn’t like my crochet advice).

No I don’t find homophobia reasonable at all.

Then why are you so homophobic?

You think homosexuality is transphobic

no I don’t.

Your comments show otherwise. You keep denying the reality of same sex attraction, it doesn't get much more homophobic than that.

What is the name for the sexuality of men (original sex based meaning) exclusively attracted to men (original sex based meaning)?

What is the name for the sexuality of women (original sex based meaning) exclusively attracted to women (original sex based meaning)?

Do you accept these people have a valid sexuality?

That poster states three things:

1. Gay men are not attracted to hetero females (implying that is what he believes gay transmen to be).

That people cannot change sex and remain their natal sex for life is a reasonable and factual belief. People's views on what this implies for gender and identity varies.

1. He doesn't feel he has anything in common with or community with gay transmen.

This is a statement about his chosen social and dating circles and is fine. There are plenty of groups both similar and different to me that I don't choose to associate or identify with.

1. That claiming to be a gay man when one was born female is homophobic.

This is an opinion that is a reasonable leap from belief 1 and a whole world history of discrimination against gay people coming in various forms across history and the world.

Your comments show otherwise.*

no they don’t.

You keep denying the realyof same sex attraction

I have not once denied the reality of anyone else’s sexual attraction on this thread.

other people , including you, have repeatedly denied/ stood in judgement the sexual orientation of a range of different groups , which I have pointed out at several points on the thread, as it is unacceptable

What is the word for a natal woman who is only attracted to natal women?

Is it ok for a lesbian to say to a "trans woman" making a move on her that she's not interested, because she is a lesbian?

What a sensible post.

Yes you have. You have repeatedly denied the reality of homosexuality.

Your homophobia is unacceptable. Do better.

It’s as acceptable as it is to say “I’m not interested because you are fat.”
In other words it may be a honest statement of attraction but it’s unecessarily cruel.
”I’m not interested” suffices just as well without being gratuitously hurtful ,

Quite right. What lesbian doesnt love cock?

I mean you can keep saying black is white if that makes you happy.
Doesn’t make it true of course, but don’t let that trouble you.

Does anyone seriously believe that Eddie Izzard, a man who dates women, becomes a lesbian on days he decides to wear make-up and high heels? And then is a straight bloke again the next day when in trousers? There's no little voice asking "hang on......isn't he just taking the piss?"

I'm just following your example, you shriek "transphobia" at everything you don't like. You don't seem to understand that you saying itdoesn't make it true 🤷‍♀️.

Except in this case, your comments ARE homophobic. You have repeatedly stated that gay men are attracted to women (transmen) and that lesbians are attracted to men (transwomen). I'm pretty sure you can see the homophobia there .. the rest of us can.

You should really work on that, especially as you see yourself as a paragon of righteousness.

Thank you! I'm going to spoil it now by saying I actually believe sexuality is much less rigid than this, that pretty much all of us have the potential to be bisexual in the right context, and that "mostly Gay/Lesbian but.." "mostly Straight but..." are very valid sexualities :). However, "most Lesbian but I have fancied the odd man" still isn't the same thing as "Lesbian counting trans women as women" and I still think women (original sex based meaning) who are exclusively attracted to each other deserve their own label for their sexuality as they always have had, not to be treated as some weird exception because their historic name has been appropriated by another group of people.

Telling gay people who they are and aren’t attracted to is homophobic.

@Lostcat No-one is telling individual people who to be atrracted to. This is simply you trying the emo-manipulation tactic again

However, people who are regularly attracted to both women and men are bi-sexual, not gay. This is simply pointing out your category error.
Of course, I think you know this and are not posting in good faith because you are only answering posts where you can try the #BeKind tactic

You have repeatedly stated that gay men are attracted to women (transmen) and that lesbians are attracted to men (transwomen)

except i haven’t said that at all. I’ve said some gay men are attracted to trans men and some lesbians are attracted to trans women . This is true- according to the research shared by GC posters on this very thread no less!. You and others have come along to deny the sexuality / gender of any such people , as if you are the arbiter / authority on the sexual orientation of others. You aren’t.

also shriek?

isn’t that a little bit misogynistic?

Genuine question - have you considered that there is a difference between wordsand the things they label?**

Ohhhj the irony. It nearly caused me to fall off my chair.

Is that in the actual reality sense or the totally fictional sense?

Not at all. How could it be, I have no idea what sex you are, so obviously couldn't possibly target anything to you as a woman.

Misogynistic of you though to say only women shriek. You keep getting worse. Homophobia and now sexism too....

You and others have come along to deny the sexuality / gender of any such people

Again this misrepresentation. No one has denied their sexuality - their attractions - exist.

They deny that the words being used, the words that previously used to denote same sex attraction, are the names for those sexualities.

Your disagreement is a disgreement about the meaning of words, not the existence or not of the sexualities themselves.

It really is very simple, I'm surprised you keep getting that so wrong.

Unless you actually disagree that anyone is same sex attracted rather than same gender attracted? In which case yes, I'm afraid someone is denying the sexuality of others, and that someone is you.

This is true- according to the research shared by GC posters on this very thread no less!.

Well I think about 9% of lesbians said they were attracted to "trans women" and from memory about 3% of gay men attracted to "trans men". So yes, I guess, "some".