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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Three-day ban on Reddit for “hate”

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ConversingWithStrangers · 30/12/2024 10:45

The only thing I can think of is posting on a UK sub about male violence. A man said that it’s not just men who have a problem with being violent because he’d been assaulted by a trans woman. I replied, “how did you know your assailant was trans?”.

They literally have subs for men to masturbate to videos of women who have a look of being “dead behind the eyes” they’ve been abused so much.

(It’s either that or somebody doesn’t like my crochet advice).

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Lostcat · 03/01/2025 09:47

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/01/2025 09:47

Ah yes, but who is the judge of that? And where do you draw the line?

MNHQ, obvs. Like all moderation on this site.

Indeed

DowntonCrabbie · 03/01/2025 09:47

Lostcat · 03/01/2025 09:26

Actually MN is discussing behind the scenes how and whether to address the reaction button laughing choice. It became a wide spread issue across many boards

Interesting that you know this…..

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You confine yourself only to threads about trans issues, ot threads you can turn into a trans issue. Other people don't have such a narrow focus and read other threads. You should try it.

Helleofabore · 03/01/2025 09:49

Lostcat · 03/01/2025 09:46

Ah yes, but who is the judge of that? And how/ where is the line drawn?

I certainly have been gaining increasing insight. For a while now.

Edited

Ultimately the trained MN moderator team ‘draws the line’.

Surely you have seen their blue posts on threads saying that posters should report anything they think is outside of the talk guidelines so that the team can evaluate it?

Surf2Live · 03/01/2025 09:50

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

so, I'm working my way through this thread and I "thumbs up" to this post, but really, I did actually LOL and wanted to "laugh emoji"

not in a sarcastic way, I actually think it's funny

now I'm just confused about how to use these emojis

oh well

Lostcat · 03/01/2025 09:51

DowntonCrabbie · 03/01/2025 09:47

You confine yourself only to threads about trans issues, ot threads you can turn into a trans issue. Other people don't have such a narrow focus and read other threads. You should try it.

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ahh I think you’ll find I post of a wide selection of topics/ threads. Actually I try to avoid trans related threads, because they are so unpleasant and they always go the same way. But sometimes I feel duty bound to interrupt the noise because of my personal expertise and cases like my friend’s sister.

Snowypeaks · 03/01/2025 09:53

It's the usual MO - ignore the subject of the thread and try to make it all about the nasty women.

Funny how the OP's "disingenuous" comment warrants a three-day ban from Reddit but people using emojis to target others with snark is just something that should be brushed off.

MulledofKintyre
Apologies for initially missing your point. Very much "not in the spirit" and I hope MN can find a way to deal with this which doesn't involve withdrawing the emojis.

SquirrelSoShiny · 03/01/2025 09:55

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/01/2025 09:31

I've literally never, in the last decade, heard an argument for why I should treat men as women that wasn't a manipulative appeal to be "kind".

I agree.

Lostcat · 03/01/2025 09:57

Snowypeaks · 03/01/2025 09:53

It's the usual MO - ignore the subject of the thread and try to make it all about the nasty women.

Funny how the OP's "disingenuous" comment warrants a three-day ban from Reddit but people using emojis to target others with snark is just something that should be brushed off.

MulledofKintyre
Apologies for initially missing your point. Very much "not in the spirit" and I hope MN can find a way to deal with this which doesn't involve withdrawing the emojis.

OP’s comment led to a ban, because transphobia is not allowed on Reddit. OP was being transphobic- she explained her logic and the fact that she was being disingenuous in her pretence that her comment wasn’t motivated by this logic.

Laugh reacting is not banned on mumsnet, it facilitated by the site and is used widely by posters.

(also ofc being transphobic is much worse than using a 😂 emoji, but never mind all that ofc.)

Helleofabore · 03/01/2025 10:02

SquirrelSoShiny · 03/01/2025 09:55

I agree.

I am just waiting now to gain an understanding of how the yougov question of :

'How positively or negatively would you say the following view transgender people?'

could have been interpreted as the majority of lesbians being accepting of male people as lesbians and of those lesbians accepting male people into female single sex provisions.

Maybe I need a special phd to extrapolate that result from that question?

Lostcat · 03/01/2025 10:04

Maybe I need a special phd to extrapolate that result from that question?

would you consider this comment to be personal / personally directed and sarcastic perhaps? More or less sarcastic / mocking than a laughing emoji? How do you think mumsnet moderation would view it behind the scenes , since you seem to have curious insight on this?

Datun · 03/01/2025 10:05

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/01/2025 09:31

I've literally never, in the last decade, heard an argument for why I should treat men as women that wasn't a manipulative appeal to be "kind".

Agree. Also, I have to say I laughed out loud at yet more of the batshit incoherence that led to one poster having to define an entire group of women by their sexual orientation, purely in order to validate the male fantasy that there's no such thing

Helleofabore · 03/01/2025 10:05

Lostcat · 03/01/2025 10:04

Maybe I need a special phd to extrapolate that result from that question?

would you consider this comment to be personal / personally directed and sarcastic perhaps? More or less sarcastic / mocking than a laughing emoji? How do you think mumsnet moderation would view it behind the scenes , since you seem to have curious insight on this?

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Why don’t you report it and find out?

That solves the issue straight away.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/01/2025 10:07

because of my personal expertise and cases like my friend’s sister.

I'm sure your friend's sister doesn't need either you or your friend to tell her how to think about women's rights.

Lostcat · 03/01/2025 10:07

Helleofabore · 03/01/2025 10:05

Why don’t you report it and find out?

That solves the issue straight away.

Because I think it’s smartest to pose the question, and shine a light

Helleofabore · 03/01/2025 10:08

Lostcat · 03/01/2025 10:07

Because I think it’s smartest to pose the question, and shine a light

What do you think you think you are shining a light on?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/01/2025 10:08

OP’s comment led to a ban, because transphobia is not allowed on Reddit.

Blatant, deranged misogyny is though.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/01/2025 10:10

So I'm afraid I don't really take moral lessons from Redditors.

Lostcat · 03/01/2025 10:10

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/01/2025 10:08

OP’s comment led to a ban, because transphobia is not allowed on Reddit.

Blatant, deranged misogyny is though.

Yes and this is seriously messed up. One thing we can finally agree on. Probably the only one.

Snowypeaks · 03/01/2025 10:14

Lostcat · 03/01/2025 09:57

OP’s comment led to a ban, because transphobia is not allowed on Reddit. OP was being transphobic- she explained her logic and the fact that she was being disingenuous in her pretence that her comment wasn’t motivated by this logic.

Laugh reacting is not banned on mumsnet, it facilitated by the site and is used widely by posters.

(also ofc being transphobic is much worse than using a 😂 emoji, but never mind all that ofc.)

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Transphobia isn't allowed on MN, either.

The OP was not being transphobic. Unless transphobia is defined as exposing flaws in the reasoning in GII. Which wouldn't surprise me but which is nonetheless ridiculous.

Can you tell us why, if TWAW, it was not transphobic of the male Reddit poster to refer to the MCW who assaulted him as a TW, not a woman, especially since he was using this attack as evidence of women's aggression?
Or how, if (as we are told) it's not possible to distinguish anyone's sex by looking at them, or if MCW cannot reliably be distinguished from women, he even knew that his attacker was male, therefore a MCW?

Basically, you can't answer these questions, neither could the Reddit poster or the mods, so they resorted to their usual solution when faced with difficult questions - or trans blasphemy - and banned the OP.

Lostcat · 03/01/2025 10:15

Snowypeaks · 03/01/2025 10:14

Transphobia isn't allowed on MN, either.

The OP was not being transphobic. Unless transphobia is defined as exposing flaws in the reasoning in GII. Which wouldn't surprise me but which is nonetheless ridiculous.

Can you tell us why, if TWAW, it was not transphobic of the male Reddit poster to refer to the MCW who assaulted him as a TW, not a woman, especially since he was using this attack as evidence of women's aggression?
Or how, if (as we are told) it's not possible to distinguish anyone's sex by looking at them, or if MCW cannot reliably be distinguished from women, he even knew that his attacker was male, therefore a MCW?

Basically, you can't answer these questions, neither could the Reddit poster or the mods, so they resorted to their usual solution when faced with difficult questions - or trans blasphemy - and banned the OP.

Transphobia isn’t allowed on Reddit.
there is a lot of transphobia on mumsnet. Only the most extreme and explicit comments are deleted. I don’t disagree with mumsnet policy- in fact- I would leave all of it, better to shine a light on these things and let them be exposed for what they are.
Then it would be at least a little bit harder for the GC posters to play the “nothing i say is transphobic” game .

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 03/01/2025 10:16

Not only that, but they now also resort to using the laughing emoji on the post reactions.
And they are usually the posters who claim to be abused or harassed as well.

thats dreadful behaviour, does that still give the posters name….i would report the shit out of that

and put it on site stuff….the hypocrisy does not surprise me though

DowntonCrabbie · 03/01/2025 10:17

Lostcat · 03/01/2025 09:51

ahh I think you’ll find I post of a wide selection of topics/ threads. Actually I try to avoid trans related threads, because they are so unpleasant and they always go the same way. But sometimes I feel duty bound to interrupt the noise because of my personal expertise and cases like my friend’s sister.

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Lol. You posted that with a straight face?

What personal expertise is that? And what has your friends sister got to do with your endless attacks on ransoms?

Snowypeaks · 03/01/2025 10:18

Lostcat · 03/01/2025 10:04

Maybe I need a special phd to extrapolate that result from that question?

would you consider this comment to be personal / personally directed and sarcastic perhaps? More or less sarcastic / mocking than a laughing emoji? How do you think mumsnet moderation would view it behind the scenes , since you seem to have curious insight on this?

Edited

And would you consider your response to be addressing the actual question asked by Helleofabore in that post?

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 03/01/2025 10:19

I only laugh react when I find what you've said genuinely funny. Some of the uptight self righteous replies are funny!

ahhh gotcha, its just bants, its only a joke etc

shameful

Snowypeaks · 03/01/2025 10:20

Lostcat · 03/01/2025 10:15

Transphobia isn’t allowed on Reddit.
there is a lot of transphobia on mumsnet. Only the most extreme and explicit comments are deleted. I don’t disagree with mumsnet policy- in fact- I would leave all of it, better to shine a light on these things and let them be exposed for what they are.
Then it would be at least a little bit harder for the GC posters to play the “nothing i say is transphobic” game .

Edited

Either you quoted the wrong post or you are confirming that you cannot answer the questions posed in it.

Either way, light, as you say, is being shone.

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