Could we ban "transvestigating" threads on here?

[Christinapple]

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5225715-ilona-maher

This one for example. Transvestigating is an informal term given to when people play detective and try to determine if a given person (usually a woman) is transgender or not from how they look e.g. photos.

I've seen it more than a few times on Twitter anytime a woman who is tall or muscular or "masculine looking" appears. Quite often, women are wrongly mistaken for being trans.

As well as being transphobic, IMO this harms all women and reinforces stereotypes of what men/women should look like. And the idea of obsessing over people's appearances like this just doesn't sit well with me.

Unfortunately yes we are Christian Far righting again, perhaps there is a chapel on Tufton St where we can join in prayer?

But I'm praying as fast as I can for a lesbian wife.

Lord hear my prayers, I'm not greedy, I don't want a tee shirt nor a fiver for a certificate. Just a lovely lesbian wife, and please look fondly upon FWS.
Amen.

No you didn't answer it; you deflected instead. My question was: how will letting men access women's spaces prevent the rise of the right?

Apparently that would be this one, St Edward's Chapel. It looks lovely.

https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1066768

May the Lord (lady? lordess? lordess of Lourdes?) bless you and bestow upon you your much deserveth Lesbian Wife.

Please don't 'fight' on behalf of all women'.

Because what you are 'fighting for' is the continued harm of the very people you profess to be fighting for. It actually is performative at this point.

"I would ask that you please not do the far right's work for them."

And this is after you just posted:

"I'm not blaming you for Trump and the rise of the alt-right"

The lack of consistency is like whiplash.

"Policing femininity and creating a climate of fear that enables the abuse of anyone who does not superficially appear to be 'female enough' does not aid any of us in any way."

This is just more emotional manipulation and forced teaming.

How about no male person continues to demand access to any female single sex spaces or any female sex based opportunity so that female people can get on with focusing on progressing female sexed based 'equity'? If you and other male people respected the specific needs of female people that excluded all male people, that would be a start.

And female people include female people who have transgender identities, and exclude the male people with transgender identities.

how will letting men access women's spaces prevent the rise of the right?

Lie back and think of Jeremy Corbyn?

I have a lesbian boss but unfortunately she's the inconvenient type that only fancies women.

'Thoroughly enjoying winding up...'

would be more accurate.

Maybe it's like a penance. If enough women close their eyes and pretend very hard that they don't mind men taking their rights, services, and spaces, then the dark forces will be defeated and Project 25 or whatever the fuck we're in danger of, will be averted.

Indeed.

😳

I mean, we probably do sound like fascists (if ‘fascism’ has been redefined to mean ‘women saying no to men’).

(apologies, obviously I meant ‘Ovary Owners and Former Ovary Owners’ saying no to ‘Jizzers and Former Jizzers’. Off to do my Hail Martins as a penance now)

Wow! Fancy Chapel!

Chapess -el?

Sisters, it is our womanly duty to reverently lay down and be quiet and meek and accepting of our betters, to allow the men to take what they wish and to verily pretend we believe whatever they choose to say, for such is the lot of a lowly ciswoman who has not benefitted from the enlightenment that comes of rejecting ghastly sinful male-tudiness. Especially when they is so fuckin more gorgeous than us innit

Crikey. Who knew that women wanting to pee in privacy would destroy democracy.

That's a bloody superpower, that is

Males who want to fight for women aren't the ones identifying as our representation.

Nailed it Arabella. We're bigots, terfs, bad women, right wing fascists - all because women say no.

This is a display of dominance we're seeing - an emotionally incontinent stream of demanding, insisting, smearing and using extreme emotional manipulation. Like sharing streams of unasked for personal experiences and then complaining when the emotional manipulation in them is pointed out.

Repeatedly posting demands that children must receive experimental and untested medication and surgery because of personal beliefs, dismissing Cass and any evidence that challenges these demands and then swerving to smear those wanting to safeguard children as right wing "Tufton Street" associates.

We're seen as as a target to be "educated" in centring trans over the safety of women and children. Interesting that the current incandescence seems to have emerged after a victim of Warboys highlighted how the advocacy of "sex by deception" is seen in the light of his terrible crimes. Having been challenged for repeated self centred, tone deaf responses, Butters is now outraged - hence the current extreme posts.

And we have cycled back to women voicing their objections to any male people over the age of about 8 being included in any female single sex space being responsible for atrocities against people with transgender identities.

It really is just SHUT THE FUCK UP you disagreeable, nasty nasty wims. Seriously, STFU if you cannot accede to my bargaining attempts.

Men are so scared of women having a say in life. If they really believed we are inferior then they wouldn't try so hard to shut us up

Thanks Arabella.

To St. Edward's Chapel Tufton St. I go rosary in hand!

St. Edward The Confessor is the Patron Saint of Kings, difficult marriages, and separated spouses. (We need to tell TinselAngel) The Good Lord has sent a sign for doth he not work in mysterious ways?

God bless all here. Amen.

Are you trying to make the Holocaust about trans people?

This.

Everything is about trans people, didn't you get the memo?

Indeedy.

At the moment the cycling around seems to be in shorter and shorter cycles though.

Reminds me of that zen koan - if a male pees in the ladies toilet and there's no woman there to validate his urinary choices does he even exist?