Imane Khelif medical report reported in Reduxx

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https://reduxx.info/algerian-boxer-imane-khelif-has-xy-chromosomes-and-testicles-french-algerian-medical-report-admits/

That article is poor. You can report the symptoms of 5-ARD as much as you like, but if you she/her all the way through. people are still going to think that Khelif is a female with a DSD that makes IK look male.

If I were being raised as a girl in a Moslem country and discovered as I entered my teens that actually I would be freed of the veil, allowed to mix more freely and probably educated better- well I’d be quite relieved.

His comfort with being carried on his coaches shoulders, and patted on the chest, training with men, and wearing shorts in front of the world’s media suggests he has adjusted quite well to the trauma.

The story is in The Mail now.
www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-14009849/Imane-Khelif-new-leaked-report-Olympics-gender-row-boxer.html

And I bet they DM are calling him "she" in it even now that they know that they don't have to, even according to their code. Not that it's a trans issue anyway.

I feel like calling everything a "row" is dismissive. The number of times I've seen a UK publication being like "(Trans rights activist issues rape and death threats) in gender row" lol

Thanks for the link to the Cluster F podcast. The Rutherford episode was - taken in isolation - quite good. But added to the knowledge that he closes his eyes so firmly to his own bias (despite mentioning several times that he is priviledged because of his sex), it is infuriating. His cognitive dissonance must be off the scale.

As expected, the article gave no credit to Reduxx.

It’s so baffling why media outlets will report on stories that Reduxx do the work on but won’t always credit them….or is it baffling……🤨

I mentioned it earlier, not sure if it has been mentioned again...that Khelif is now seeklng to box professionally...presumably in the female category.

No getting around some form of testing for pro boxers, though, surely? Betcha it never happens.

I would think pro boxing would actually be less regulated than the Olympics in this regard. It seems at least that PED testing is far from rigorous in this sport. Pro boxing would be more easily called entertainment. The betting market would probably appreciate a "woman" winning so often.

Mail: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-14009849/amp/Imane-Khelif-new-leaked-report-Olympics-gender-row-boxer.html

Oh, sorry, missed that you'd posted it already!

Just squeezed it in before the election coverage.

Sharon Davies was just on Patrick Christys's show on GB News doing her usual sterling work 👏 on this.

So the IOC allowed a man to beat up women whilst millions watched.

Bastards!

Men, they allowed men to beat up women. Then gave them medals for doing it.

My friend is definitely not a fundamentalist, but yes, she is very modest. In 5 years of knowing her I have never seen her hair or arms or bare legs. She might wear loose pants - but they are women's pants. Clothing such as suits and shorts and trousers are WOMEN's suits and shorts and trousers. And more to the point men don't wear women's clothes.There is a specific hadith that references this (Book 17, Hadith 122 ref courtesy of friend). My point is that however sad Khelif's situation may be, he is a man, and his clothing style indicates he knows this.He's from a very traditional area of Algeria. He's not dressing like his mother or his sisters, is he? (see photo below)

Is Esra Yildiz Muslim? Just because she is Turkish doesn't mean she must be, surely. Her boxing profile doesn't say. She is still wearing women's clothes, though. Same with the basketball team - WOMEN's clothes.
I didn't say there are no female muslim boxers, or muslim women playing sport - just that many traditional muslims don't approve. You seem to miss your own point that not all Muslims are the same.

My friend is very against women boxing or contact sports. She has more knowledge of Islam than I do, obviously, and pardon me if I choose to go with what she says, rather than an internet poster who appears to be trying to excuse a man in women's sport.

The photo of clothing posted earlier is disingenuous as those shorts/hijab are still women's clothes - sporting clothes made especially for Muslim women.
Muslim female boxers CAN choose to wear modest clothes, and also have female support team: photo 1

Khelif is from a traditional part of Algeria, from a traditional family, with traditional clothing mores - his mother wears hijab: photo 2
Photo 3 shows Khelif with a female sparring partner and their support teams. He appears to be wearing a male groin guard. Photo 4 shows male groin guard. Photo 5 shows typical female groin guard.

Perhaps YOU should try to meet some Muslim people who don't conform to YOUR idea of what is "compatible" with your views?

He shall sue!

https://archive.ph/A8LkM seconds away, round two the paywall

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2024/11/06/imane-khelif-olympics-gender-row-legal-medical-claims/

I notice in the line up picture posted just upthread, Khelif has another man's arm round his broad manly shoulders. While no-one is touching the other boxer.

Talking of pictures, the one the Telegraph has illustrated the article with...

I am with the bring it on crowd, cake thanks!

For completeness, also in the Times

https://archive.ph/KHxQa

https://www.thetimes.com/sport/boxing/article/imane-khelif-legal-action-boxing-gender-row-nf0wk3bls

Much the same, long quote from the IOC which condemns abuse (fair enough) but, to me, reads like they're preparing their excuses. Particularly the long list of other organisations that followed the same eligibility rules.

I would love him to Sue! Bring it all out in the open just like Caster semanya did

Same.

Even if the actual content of the tests isn't allowed to be publicised, the sunlight will be invaluable.

There will always be men who want to muscle in on women's sports, the people to target are those who let them.

He wants to go professional now. I can't see him making much of a living if he's not allowed to be in the women's category. So he definitely still has skin in this game.

But would any female boxers be willing to fight him? In the olympics you have to fight whoever you are drawn against but, surely it is a choice in the professional sphere?

I agree. But I can easily see people doing it for money. And who knows how much horse trading goes on behind-the-scenes.

I will bring up, once again, the difficulty transman Patricio Manuel has had getting fights (total bouts: 4 in 6 years).

In 2021 Manuel whined in a puff piece on a trans propaganda website that opponents were refusing to get into the ring with Manuel.

The website had to admit that though USA Boxing had permitted Manuel to compete at the professional level, opponents could still decline to spar with anyone they chose.

I am, of course, presuming that biologically female boxers have the same freedom in this regard as biologically male boxers.