BUPA being rediculous avoiding the word woman

[desiringtoremainsane]

A bupa ad in my linkedin feed.
Most people huh? Did anyone tell the men?

From the NHS website:
"Menopause is when your periods stop due to lower hormone levels. It usually affects women between the ages of 45 and 55, but it can happen earlier.
It affects anyone who has periods."

But I assume those defending the ad are trying to make the ridiculous point that any female who decides she is a man should no longer be called a woman. But even if I accepted that nonsensical attempt to make the word "woman" meaningless, it still wouldn't be "most" of the entire world population that experience menopause, would it!

Yes!

I still cannot get over someone who honestly thought it was a good idea to use the word in connection to male people suffering a lowering of testosterone.

And that people actually defend this! It is fucked up thinking.

Then you’re a woman however you identify. If you weren’t you wouldn’t be pregnant. But you know that, just as we all do.

When a person who believes in gender ideology says something like "but most people are women!" we have to assume they mean "women gender ID" and not the old fashioned bigotted meaning of the word "women".

Aside from the fact that woman gender id is irrelevant to whether or not you'll experience menopause, is this true? Are there more people with "woman gender ID" than any other gender ID category? I know there's the middle aged males who claim this identity; are there more of them than there are teenage girls who identify as boy/man gender id? And are there also more "assigned male at birth" non binaries than "assigned female at birth" non binaries? And has whoever is collecting these statistics made totally certain they haven't forcibly assigned gender IDs to people (like many feminists) who actually don't have a gender ID but often find that forms don't allow them to state this? And what about the elderly? Why is gender evangelising always focussing on the schools and not the care homes? So exclusionary!

I feel sorry for the person who originally drafted a sensible communication using the word woman and then saw that by the time it had gone through the various teams for review ended up with this meaningless nonsense.

These are interesting questions. Why don't you start a thread about them?

Oh dear. Is even my right to a menopause (a few years down the line I hope) going to be shared with men, sorry penis owners, now?

I'm not clear why gender ideologists are still confused themselves about sec and gender. Being "non-binary" doesn't change your sex.

My husband had several of those symptoms - it was Chronic Myeloid Leukaemia.

Parent is saying that they are pregnant and not a woman, maybe Parent is Arnold Schwarzenegger?

I've sometimes joked about "the male menopause". I'm beginning to wish I hadn't, as some people seem to take it seriously, and maybe I have contributed to their confusion. Let me spell this out (even if I am mansplaining):

There is no such thing as the male menopause, as men cannot menstruate so cannot ever cease to menstruate. Any mention of "male menopause"should be taken as a not very funny joke at the expense of men, equivalent to mocking men for having "manflu" when it's just a common or garden cold.

IKR. Now the men who want to be women and their allies are trying to approriate menopause from women, fgs.
Funny how the wokies hate cultural appropriation so much, but think nothing of sex based appropriation.

If men want they menopause, can I give them mine? Years of waking up in the middle of the night drenched in sweat. And my sleep patterns have gone to hell.

Exactly. Well said.

No@Errahstop , just NO!

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menopause
/ˈmɛnə(ʊ)pɔːz/

noun
noun: menopause; plural noun: menopauses
1 the ceasingg of menstruationn.


◦ the period in a woman's life (typically between the ages of 45 and 50) when menstruation ceasess_.



Menopause is not just another word for saying you are in your 40s or having a midlife crisis. It is a biological process that ONLY women go through.

Stop pandering to the menfolk and trying to twist the meaning of words. If men want a word to describe a biological process they go through at s9me point in their life then they should come up with one.

Of course they bloody well are!

Christ, this is tiresome.

Women ARE the only ones to go through menopause. Women = females. Including women who imagine they are men or use the nonsensical term "non binary" because they imagine that not fitting some backward sexist's ideas of female stereotypes makes them somehow "not a woman"

If you are pregnant, you are as binary and female as the rest of us as far as your sex is concerned. You are a woman, whether the ideology that seems to posit that only walking Barbie dolls are allowed to call themselves women "permits" you to call yourself that or not. It's backwards, misogynist, rubbish. Literally everyone will know you are a woman.

And we don't accept the sexist ideology that "woman" means "aligns with regressive sex stereotypes". You're talking to feminists here. It doesn't matter how "non-feminine" you think you are, since that's not what "being a woman" is, you are still a woman. And so are we. Do you actually think that old school feminists are known for their adherence to regressive sex stereotypes aka gender?

Jesus, the ignorance. Non-binary is meaningless drivel. MOST of us here would be "non-binary" by your definition.

We're not. We're women. All of us. The only people who aren't are the ones born with penises who are appropriating the term like the sexist men they are.

I despair.

Gosh. Not that men can have one. What a malarkey.

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If people are using the phrase "male menopause" because most people haven't heard of "andropause" (I hadn't until a previous thread) then surely the answer is more education around it?

Hey Errahstop
Why are men and this male condition your main focus here? It's not relevant to the topic. At all. The BUPA campaign isn't about that (so far as we can tell from the slides without, you know, them actually saying the word women). Why is it so hard for you to centre women in a discussion raised by women, about the lack of use of the word woman, in a campaign about menopause, an experience that only women can have? Just think about it. Quietly. Preferably away from a keyboard.

I'll give them my inoperable stage 4 endo too so they can have the full woman experience.

Hate to be the one to break it to you but you are in fact a WOMAN.

Do you know the sex of your baby yet?