BUPA being rediculous avoiding the word woman

[desiringtoremainsane]

A bupa ad in my linkedin feed.
Most people huh? Did anyone tell the men?

Are you joking @ParentToAngelsAndOneOnTheWay ?

Or are you serious?

I you really want men to know that they can have a mid life crisis, and that there is help available for them, using the word Menopause is counter productive.

As most men are fairly rational creatures, they know they do not have periods and therefore will not have menopause. They will conclude, in a rational way, that the information is not meant for them.

So a massive fail if you are trying to help men.

Ditto, if you are trying to help women...

You would be the first in the history of the world; quite a feat. Well done!

I am curious, as you are not a woman but are pregnant where is the baby? Non female people do not have a uterus/womb.

How will you grow the baby? Non female people do not have the hormonal system needed to grow a baby.

How will you get the baby out? Non female people do not have a birth canal.

You may well identify as non binary.

But you are most definitely female.

I thought you said you are non binary.

Sorry to break it to you but you are a woman.

Menopause means the cessation of periods. Only women have periods. Only women experience menopause.

Erasure of the word "women" means the erasure of women's rights.

Non-binary means you don't conform to stereotypes of being a woman (like most of us women). It doesn't mean your sex has magically changed. If it had then you couldnt be pregnant. You might not want to refer to yourself as a woman but you can't escape the material reality that is your biology.

Well what could be more stereotypical woman than having a baby.

Not all women experience menopause, although of course most do.

Actually, despite the fact that it is (confusingly for some) called the MENopause, only women go through it.

That's a really badly written stat. People should be 1/6 and women 1/3 of their lives post menopausal. They should have used women with an asterisk to assuage the gender punks.

Male menopause is a handle rather than a medical term and covers different things. All menstruating women go through menopause if they live long enough. Not all men go through hypogonadism or whatever else they want to lump under the term.

BUPA are bostards

I'm not a woman but I'm pregnant, I menstruate and will more likely than not go through the menopause one day

Seriously. Grow up, for the sake of your child, at least.

Errahstop · Today 01:07

Men can also have a menopause. These symptoms can interfere with everyday life and happiness. What's so shocking about that?

Testosterone levels tail off very gradually, when men are in their 30s and it's nothing like the drastic drop women experience, during the menopause. It's also very much incorrect to refer to it as the menopause, which is an entirely female condition.

Some health conditions can cause testosterone to drop very rapidly; this may include orchidectomy, in the case of cancer and testosterone therapy is of help to sufferers. It's also comparatively rare, unlike the menopause in women.

Again, this is not menopause, any more than a stroke is cancer. It's called hypogonadism.

BUPA are very generic in all their articles. For example, if you read their page about testicular cancer, it also refers to 'people', rather than 'men'. I guess they're worried about offending the woke crowd.

Make sure you get your prostate checked then.

So we are to believe that anyone reading 'most people' will immediately assume that it DOESN'T apply to them? Nobody objects to them saying women...apparently lots of people object to them saying 'people'.

If this were true they would have used the word 'women' and not the word 'people'

Sadly we live in a world where woman is becoming a problematic word when it is used to refer to female people. We all know this, so please don't try to make out that it isn't currently true.

Yes, even leaving aside the 'people' snafu, the stats are bollocks. Menopause is a specific term with a specific meaning. After menopause, women are post menopausal.

This ad does not suggest to me that BUPA are serious, or to be trusted as reliable healthcare providers.

If a private healthcare provider wants to try and obfuscate health messaging and present hazy, ideologically based bullshit over scientific and material reality I will be unsurprised, tbh.

Please support keeping the NHS publically owned, and evidence based.

It's basic maths.

Half of people - women - is not most. And men do not have a menopause as they cannot cease menses (where the word menopause comes from) or experience the symptoms related to this specific health condition.

They can have a mid life crisis that is unhelpfully labelled as a manopause, but they do not suffer the sudden huge fluctuations in hormones.

If a man is experiencing menopause symptoms I'd suggest they see their GP as its more likely to be something else that could be quite serious, especially the irregular bleeding etc.

Given that that poster thinks that it's possible to be pregnant and not a woman, thus asserting that 'gender identity' over-rides sex, the subsequent claim that 'half' the population are women seems a bold one.

How do we know how the population identify? Has anyone ever checked the 'gender identity' of the population?

We'd have to explain 'gender identity' first.

(See the last census for entertainingly farcical statistics.)

A third of their life in menopause?

So being post menopausal isn't a thing now??

Also
Menopause is the biological stage in a woman's life when her ovaries stop producing hormones and she stops having menstrual periods.

Men don't have ovaries.

This is what they say about testicular cancer screening: "this is for men, some non-binary or intersex people and transgender women, even after full surgery as the prostate isn’t removed".

Big ££ private healthcare organisations like Bupa decide women shouldn't have language to describe themselves.

Some men decide to use women's language when they're having a tough time, appropriating uniquely female experience.

Some women decide their own feelings about themselves mean that women as a class ought not be allowed the language to describe themselves. The big private ££ healthcare organisations and some men are very supportive of this.

I wonder why that could be? Why are big private ££ healthcare organisations and some men so invested in the idea that women are no longer able to define themselves as a distinct class of humans? No longer allowed the language necessary in order to organise together against their opression?

Non binary pregnant people?

It's utterly negligent to send out medical advice without letting people know if they're in the at risk group.

Also absurd.

No. It really is not.

There really is no way statistically that this as is accurate.

I do think it is really great for lurkers though to see this absolutist level of dismissal of the health needs of the majority of female people in the name of a very few people’s philosophical belief.

It shows that a small portion of society demanded and now fully support inaccurate health information being promoted to keep them happy. And that losing accuracy in language is the aim regardless of the cost to others.

I think the message is slowly getting through to those who thought they were just being kind.