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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Women with alopecia harassed in woman's toilets at airport

343 replies

Christinapple · 13/10/2024 15:03

https://x.com/lindSAYhanNAH3/status/1844696180887794159

I've said it several times, the gender critical movement harms all women. Any women who doesn't meet the criteria of what a woman "should look like" is at risk of being wrongly accused of being trans.

Also makes me wonder about that other thread about FWSSport. If a woman with alopecia plays sport with other women are people who are gender critical going to mistake her as a man and report her to FWSSport who will store data on her?

Women with alopecia harassed in woman's toilets at airport
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TheaBrandt · 13/10/2024 16:03

If it happened it’s very possible the challenger woman has MH problems. I’ve had a few incidents of women saying odd things to
me on buses etc. There is a well dressed middle aged dog walker lady locally who appears perfectly normal but shouts vile abuse at passers by - she has had a head injury so everyone cuts her slack. I certainly wouldn’t extrapolate from
this incident that we must allow any man that wants to into our spaces.

Corinthiana · 13/10/2024 16:08

Yes, I think it's probably that, @TheaBrandt . Sometimes people with significant mental health problems aren't supported effectively, and can act in a very unpredictable way.

Maray1967 · 13/10/2024 16:10

wrongthinker · 13/10/2024 15:07

I feel like this didn't happen. Women still look like women even if they don't have hair. I would challenge a male in the women's bathroom, but not without being 100% sure he was male. I suspect this either didn't happen or the woman accusing her was just totally bonkers.

Yes, I agree. I’ve never thought that a woman with alopecia is a transwoman. This account is highly improbable - it if it did happen, very bizarre. It is not reflective at all of the behaviour of women with GC views.

YellowAsteroid · 13/10/2024 16:12

TWETMIRF · 13/10/2024 15:06

If men didn't keep insisting on barging their way into women's spaces then women wouldn't be suspicious.

Edited for typo

Edited

This.

It’s the transgender extrmists who harm women. They’ve tried to break centuries of socially maintained sanctions against men in women’s spaces. For VERY good reasons.

So now women are either miserably or fearfully putting up with men trampling all over our boundaries or we are super-vigilant and hostile and overreact.

ChaChaChooey · 13/10/2024 16:13

‘Bald lady gets verbally abused by seemingly unhinged stranger so you must let men use your female-only lavatories’ ?

Logic fail, there, Chris!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/10/2024 16:13

It’s the transgender extrmists who harm women. They’ve tried to break centuries of socially maintained sanctions against men in women’s spaces. For VERY good reasons.

So now women are either miserably or fearfully putting up with men trampling all over our boundaries or we are super-vigilant and hostile and overreact.

Exactly this.

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 13/10/2024 16:14

OP you've absolutely no frickin idea what "gender critical" means if that's your take on it. Imagine posting something this dense on FWR.

OuterSpaceCadet · 13/10/2024 16:14

Tbh even if women were universally bitchy it still doesn't mean single sex spaces should cease to exist. I'd rather endure a nasty comment from a woman than violence from a man. That said, I can't even recall receiving a nasty comment from a random woman ever, and I've had many, many from unknown men ever since hitting puberty.

Huge lols at the reality deniers getting huffy that their word ain't gospel here.

Hoardasurass · 13/10/2024 16:15

TofuTart · 13/10/2024 16:00

Yeah, hilarious. Being mistaken for a man can be upsetting.
Glad you find it so funny
Collateral damage, are they? Or just making it up, that seems to be the theme on this thread.

I'm the most gender non conforming woman you could hope to meet, short hair, no makeup and I never ware heals, skirts or dresses.
In all my decades I've never been scrutinised for not being feminine enough by anyone who's gc only TRAs who insist that I'm a transman denial.
Someone who with a passing glance thinking I'm a bloke is not hurtful or harmful.
I should probably point out that I have alopecia too hence the short hair

OuterSpaceCadet · 13/10/2024 16:15

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 13/10/2024 16:14

OP you've absolutely no frickin idea what "gender critical" means if that's your take on it. Imagine posting something this dense on FWR.

Yet they're here so often!

Either they post without reading, read without comprehension, or have a massive humiliation kink and we're unwittingly involved.

CherryBlossomArt · 13/10/2024 16:15

KizzyDora · 13/10/2024 15:08

Chinny reckon on this one.

This

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 13/10/2024 16:16

TofuTart · 13/10/2024 15:08

I've said it several times, the gender critical movement harms all women
I agree.

I'm sorry you feel must comply with gender stereotypes at all times. How do you deal with women who don't wear makeup or dresses? Demand to have them arrested?

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 13/10/2024 16:17

I'm wondering what the point of this thread is?

even if this happened as described (which it just didn't), am I supposed to say 'woman with no hair got challenged in the ladies, now it's OK to lock women prisoners up with rapists'?

or 'now it's OK to encourage gender non conforming children to take untested drugs and aspire to dangerous surgery'?

or 'now it's OK for men to beat the shit out of women in the boxing ring'?

I mean, what is it supposed to prove?

I already know the OP is goady and fails to engage, so there is zero point engaging seriously with his threads, but this one is especially pointless, even for him.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 13/10/2024 16:17

arethereanyleftatall · 13/10/2024 15:16

Eh? Your op is backwards.

Men barging in to women's spaces, resulting in women being on high alert at all times, is the cause of this.

This. 🎯

TofuTart · 13/10/2024 16:18

OuterSpaceCadet · 13/10/2024 16:15

Yet they're here so often!

Either they post without reading, read without comprehension, or have a massive humiliation kink and we're unwittingly involved.

Who's "they?"
It's so weird on here how anyone who isn't hundred per cent posting gender critical opinions is lumped into one big mysterious/nefarious "they."
People. People who's views aren't always the same as yours.
Thought it wasn't an echo chamber on here? Not a hive mind?
Doesn't sound like it.

Theunamedcat · 13/10/2024 16:19

Reading further into it this seems to happen an awful lot with them

TofuTart · 13/10/2024 16:20

@BernardBlacksMolluscs
Where has the op said they're a man?

ChaChaChooey · 13/10/2024 16:21

TofuTart · 13/10/2024 16:18

Who's "they?"
It's so weird on here how anyone who isn't hundred per cent posting gender critical opinions is lumped into one big mysterious/nefarious "they."
People. People who's views aren't always the same as yours.
Thought it wasn't an echo chamber on here? Not a hive mind?
Doesn't sound like it.

Edited

If you had a interesting argument to back up your views then I’m sure people would be happy to engage with it.

‘TWAW no debate’ isn’t worth engaging with because it’s a motto rather than a rational statement.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 13/10/2024 16:21

TofuTart · 13/10/2024 16:18

Who's "they?"
It's so weird on here how anyone who isn't hundred per cent posting gender critical opinions is lumped into one big mysterious/nefarious "they."
People. People who's views aren't always the same as yours.
Thought it wasn't an echo chamber on here? Not a hive mind?
Doesn't sound like it.

Edited

Okay Tofu, let's talk

are you seriously taking the position that because a woman with no hair got challenged in the ladies loo some men are really women and it's OK to lock women prisoners up with those men if one of them commits a crime?

let's talk about what you actually believe

TofuTart · 13/10/2024 16:22

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 13/10/2024 16:16

I'm sorry you feel must comply with gender stereotypes at all times. How do you deal with women who don't wear makeup or dresses? Demand to have them arrested?

Well no, seeing as I never wear make up myself, don't really want us to be arrested,😳😁

ChaChaChooey · 13/10/2024 16:22

TofuTart · 13/10/2024 16:20

@BernardBlacksMolluscs
Where has the op said they're a man?

OP is well known on FWR, instantly recognisable through multiple name changes.

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 13/10/2024 16:26

TofuTart · 13/10/2024 16:20

@BernardBlacksMolluscs
Where has the op said they're a man?

I just use the pronouns that seem most appropriate when referring to posters. If the OP would like to clarify his sex he's most welcome to. It would be refreshing to see him actually engaging after one of his goady BS posts to be honest

Hoppinggreen · 13/10/2024 16:26

A woman with no hair looks like a woman with no hair, not a man.
I was at an event last night and was sitting next to a TW, every gesture and movement was male. During lockdown when everyone worse masks it was still very very obvious what sex people were
I don't believe that hair loss would make a womans sex impossible to tell any more than I think a man putting a long wig on makes him look like a woman

WallaceinAnderland · 13/10/2024 16:28

This is what you get if you pretend the word 'woman' includes men.

Before that, no one would accuse a woman of being a man.

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