Women with alopecia harassed in woman's toilets at airport

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https://x.com/lindSAYhanNAH3/status/1844696180887794159

I've said it several times, the gender critical movement harms all women. Any women who doesn't meet the criteria of what a woman "should look like" is at risk of being wrongly accused of being trans.

Also makes me wonder about that other thread about FWSSport. If a woman with alopecia plays sport with other women are people who are gender critical going to mistake her as a man and report her to FWSSport who will store data on her?

so reviewing your posts of page 1, I'm guessing this is your explanation of how the gender critical movement harms all women:

So called gender criticals with their policing and scrutinising women's appearances are far more of a concern to me than people who are trans.

1. given the established meanings of the words 'gender' and 'critical': do you think it is likely that someone who is genuinely 'critical of gender' scrutinises women's appearance?

2. not all women. I don't think the gender critical movement has harmed me. at all

3. you are more worried about people who you wrongly categorise as 'gender criticals' scrutinising women's appearance than (say) women being locked up with rapists. That's fine, you are entitled to your view. I would suggest it's unlikely to be representative though

yes, I mean the only explanation I can come up with is that this poster does not know the correct meaning of one or both of the words 'gender' and 'critical', and is therefore sorely mistaken about the beliefs of people who categorise themselves as gender critical. hence this whole heeelarious misunderstanding

Helle, that's true. Yes, voice does make it a lot easier. Ofc some women have deeper and vice versa, but it's a pretty good indicator. Skeletal proportions too. And ofc black and white photos are even harder.
Josette, that's interesting you'd think she's male. I picked this photo as I think it's the one where she passes best, esp w the military uniform, but she still looks female to me- I think poss because my lovely first Head of year at secondary school looked quite similar.

Anyone saying GC women are a threat and police gender but TRAs don't.. words fail me. 🤔

1. given the established meanings of the words 'gender' and 'critical': do you think it is likely that someone who is genuinely 'critical of gender' scrutinises women's appearance?

This poster regards some male people as women, so it makes sense in that context.

The idea that women who have spent all their lives being anti regressive sex stereotypes (such as "real women adhere to patriarchal ideas of 'femininity'") police other women on the basis of their adherence to... regressive sex stereotypes such as patriarchal ideas of 'femininity' , beggars belief.

That isn't what "gender critical" is. "Gender" = regressive sex stereotypes (like "women must be feminine" "ladybrain" "pink for girls", "women are naturally submissive/like cooking/are good at typing/bad drivers") that sort of rubbish. "Critical" = critical of that. Not supportive of that. Literally the ONLY criteria for being female is being actually, biologically female. It's nothing to do with such backwards ideas about "femininity". Males, regardless of outfit, hairstyle, likes, dislikes, personality can't be female, because they will always be biologically male. Human personalities are much freer and wide ranging than limiting "gender" boxes.

Meanwhile, the trans movement and its ideology is ENTIRELY built on the same regressive sex stereotypes that feminists critical of "gender" (which is a central tenet of feminism, or was back in the day) have been fighting for years and thought we'd got rid of in, oh, about the 1980s at the latest. But nope.

There appears to be some confusion. Some of it quite deliberate, I'd say.

What could be meant here by "investigative journalism"? Because they doxx trans people, the same as kiwifarms do.

Reduxx only ever report on "trans people" doing things they should not be doing. 99 times out of 100 the "trans people" they report on are male people abusing women in some way.

Receipts please.

I mean, if this interpretation is correct, I would describe this opinion in the same way I would describe the opinion that a woman being in a robe in the wi spa reception complainging is more ‘egregious’ in her actions than the naked male with an aroused penis getting into a bath a metre away from a nine year old girl. And that description would be that the holder of that opinion has perhaps got priorities that are not centred on female people.

Gender critical feminism has nothing to do with scrutinising people's appearance.

IF this happened at all it was a case of a gender nonconforming woman being harassed for being gender nonconforming.

We know this because A - Transwomen are never bald, unmadeup, casually and gender neutrally dressed. On the contrary, long hair, makeup and tight skirts are favoured. The idea is to look as "feminine" as possible.

And B - Transwomen are known to be men and are never challenged in the way this woman was. I mean, this is the problem right?

She was challenged and harrased by someone who KNEW she was a woman - and this is always the case in these incidents I feel sure. And it has been happening for decades. Long before the current Trans activism trend. Because it's homophobia that is behind this behaviour.
TL:DR
Men in dresses are not challenged in women's spaces because women are afraid to do so. But women who do not look"feminine enough" can be safely challenged and harrased.
Ergo no one thinks these women are actually men. If they did, they'd leave them alone.

Looks like the sympathy of the Be Kind people evaporated pretty quickly when it turns out the alopecia suffering woman doesn't agree with men in women's sports.

Alana McLaughlin is a misogynistic male who beats up women in MMA fights.

How utterly predictable.

www.feministcurrent.com/2021/09/12/alana-mclaughlin-is-a-cheat/

On Friday night, McLaughlin used a choke hold to beat 32-year-old Celine Provost, a clearly more skilled fighter, who could simply not compete with the strength of a man. Women and men alike know full well that even very strong, athletic women can be taken down by regular men, never mind an ex-Special Forces soldier, which is why, for example, male and female inmates are housed separately, based on sex, not fitness.

Well yes, you're either 100% all in or you're a terf who deserves all she gets. You can never do enough for trans activists. Nothing but complete capitulation in every single sphere is acceptable.

Funny how male offending rates stay exactly the same when they identify as women, isn't it?

Trans are the only ones that doxx people, their home addresses, their place of employment.

Lindsay is now being attacked by TransTerrorists, and has had truly hateful comments about her. LGBTQNation wrote a truly horrible article about her, and misogynist MRA/TRAs have left HORRIBLE abuse to her.

Scum. These MRA/TRAs are nothing but slimy scum in the sewer! They show their hearts are full of HATE every single time.

This.

Anyone unable to tell a woman's sex in the absence of hair must have significant difficulties with their observational abilities, that would have predated the problem of men in women's toilets.

I've come across more GC women than trans women. In fact out of all the toilets I've ever been in in my 50-odd years ( and I love a good night out still) I have never noticed trans women in the ladies loo. Where are all these infiltrators ? The odd one may have been there without my notice as I have better things to be getting on with ( usually in as short a time as possible). I'm sure they'd be busy doing what they came for too. All in the privacy of a cubicle. I can't get worked up about what must be such a rare occurance. If this woman didn't get so caught up and riled by it all, she would not have felt the need to be so abusive about it, if its real at all anyway.

Oh, it is real.

And I hate to break it to you, but this isn't just about toilets (although the schoolgirls who are now for instance choosing to hold it in all the way through the school day because there are boys in their loos might think that is kind of important too. Do you?)

Do you think other women have the right to say "no" to males in spaces where they are vulnerable? Such as hospital wards, when needing intimate care, in rape crisis centres, in prisons, for instance? And did you know that males who id as women (aka "trans women") have at least the same rates of violent and sexual assault against women as other males? Women don't.

Do you understand why single sex spaces in certain circumstances (including, but not limited to women's toilets) were fought for historically and what the reasons for that were?