Gender neutral language in pregnancy care

[QuirkyJadeSwan]

So I’m currently pregnant with my first and have been kind of low key annoyed with how common discussions around pregnancy and related topics remove to term woman or female (I.e birthing people). I started getting bugged by this during my trying to conceive phase and now it bugs me even more. I know it’s kind of a minor thing in the grand scheme of things but I needed to vent. Seriously going through TTC & pregnancy has made me about 10x more aware of how different physically women are.

I've waited years to have a baby, and now I finally am, I lie awake every night worrying that my partner will lose his job, and you're scoffing at that? It's offensive.

Oh honestly give over ffs

There's always one

Just to clarify @Thankfulforthislillife I didn't mean you!

And often the same one.

Same location, same style, same details, same ideological views.

Congratulations, @QuirkyJadeSwan
I hope it all goes well.

I tell you what's offensive. Coming on a thread purely to tell women to centre men. All the time.

I note that yet again the beee kiiind/how does it affect you TRA always find their way to threads about language - but oddly never go those threads where eg a TW ie a msn was appointed ceo of a rape charity & told rape victims to reframe their trauma or the threads where teenage girls are pushed out of sport by men taking their places. So strange isn’t it

Reported for hate speech.

It's not top trumps. You have ZERO idea of how it was for me.
your totally not alike whatanoutery is not needed here

Then I am sorry for your struggles and wish you all the best, despite our disagreements.

However, I will not deny your womanhood. The challenges you have faced are part of your womanhood. They are because you are a woman. The men in your life have faced different challenges during these horrible situations.

@Pocketfullofdogtreats

"C’est pourquoi ils recommandent aux femmes enceintes de ne pas boire du tout d’alcool, tout au long de leur grossesse."

But maybe it's ok for "pregnant men" and "non binary people"?

www.alcool-info-service.fr/sinformer-et-evaluer-sa-consommation/grossesse-et-allaitement/est-ce-que-je-peux-boire-pendant-ma

I think you’re conflating national initiatives with Trust level responsibility for websites and patient information.

Two very different things to entirely different budgets from different organisations both can be being done (or not done) concurrently.

Disingenuous

Are you serious?!

Ditto.

I'm very confused as to what your partner possibly losing his job because they don't want him to have any time off has got to do with gender neutral language in maternity care.

I mean I'm sure it's a very difficult time for you but it doesn't mean that women can have penises, or that men have a harder time in the workplace than women or that the term woman should be erased from maternity care.

Only biological women can get pregnant, women can also have gender dysphoria that makes them feel they're not female, but still only biological women can get pregnant.

If you want trans men added on to the literature to make it inclusive then push for that. But don't expect the term woman to be taken away from women.

Unless a biological man becomes pregnant and gives birth then the responsibility lies with biological WOMEN. WOMEN. Not people that think they’re men, biological WOMAN.

People that claim it doesn’t ‘hurt’ us in any way to make WOMEN that think they are really men, comfortable, can fuck right off.

You do not have the right to make WOMEN uncomfortable.

I thought your heading said gender neutral leggings and I had to re tears your post three times to figure out where the leggings came into it. Jesus i need some sleep 😂 but yes I find it's only social media that's like that, any baby books or antenatal classes I have done it always refers to women.

I don't mean supernatural, and I'm sure you know that. It felt magical to me. Special. It made me feel connected to other women, past and present, in a way I hadn't before.
If you want everything to be pedestrian then I feel sorry for you.

Well I don't know what your point is but the first sentence says "L'alcool consommé par les femmes enciente passe par le sang du bebe par le placenta." Pregnant women, then.
I can't see anything about pregnant others.

That is sickening. It’s not ok to say ‘women’ but calling women ‘non-males’ or ‘non-men’ is fine.

Sorry, can't edit. You're saying I'm right? My apologies.

I object to 'and pregnant people' being added, are women not people? The implication of that phrase is that they are not!

I’m not sure I agree with you. As “woman” is a subset of “person”, I think it’s covered.

I’m pretty hardline about GC matters, but I certainly wouldn’t have read that into that phrasing.