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Butlin's Skegness removes 5 trans women from female toilets

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TERFtown · 09/10/2024 20:19

https://x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1843952648460140987?s=46&t=p6GESSn09HWHVXYgTLIbJg

(I don't want to call them "trans women", but I don't know what terminology gets me banned here!)

"Security guards removed five cross-dressing men, including this one, from the women's toilets at Bang Face, a dance festival at Butlin's Skegness this weekend. The men responded with a coordinated protest and the security guards have now "been removed""

Anyone up for a TERFy weekend in Butlin's?!? Wine

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ArabellaScott · 09/10/2024 21:16

https://www.butlins.com/help-contact

Let them know how you feel about men in women's spaces. Ask what their policy is on single sex spaces.

Contact Us | Butlin's

If you've got a question or would like to talk to someone, find our telephone contact numbers here.

https://www.butlins.com/help-contact

Toseland · 09/10/2024 21:51

Five?!

Circumferences · 09/10/2024 22:00

High five
To the staff obv.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/10/2024 22:26

Five?!

It seems like they went in there en masse which is obviously really intimidating to women and a complaint was made, which the security guards, rightly acted on.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/10/2024 22:26

Sorry meant to quote @Toseland

SirChenjins · 09/10/2024 22:29

And now the security guards have been removed from duty for telling the men to get out of the women’s toilets?? FFS.

AreYouShittingMe · 09/10/2024 22:29

I read somewhere that the security staff have since been sacked due to complaints about them from TRAs (followed by calls to boycott Butlins as a result)

AreYouShittingMe · 09/10/2024 22:30

Sorry- cross post with @SirChenjins

MarieDeGournay · 09/10/2024 22:33

AreYouShittingMe · 09/10/2024 22:29

I read somewhere that the security staff have since been sacked due to complaints about them from TRAs (followed by calls to boycott Butlins as a result)

The TERFy weekend suggested by OP will be much improved by a boycott by TRA, so bring it onGrin

Toseland · 09/10/2024 22:50

Oh I've just seen a video snippet - a bloke being blokey with long hair - it's such a creepy con.
Well done those security guards, come on Butlins, you should support women and children - right?

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TERFtown · 09/10/2024 23:07

Circumferences · 09/10/2024 22:00

High five
To the staff obv.

Ha! Brilliant!

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NPET · 09/10/2024 23:28

I'm 20. I'd HATE to use a women's toilet at Butlins and find men in it. But how much worse a few years ago when I was a teen and how much worse a few years before that. Yes, at somewhere like Butlins, pre-teen girls would be using the toilets and changing rooms. TG for those security guards.

Livinginaclock · 10/10/2024 06:48

MarieDeGournay · 09/10/2024 22:33

The TERFy weekend suggested by OP will be much improved by a boycott by TRA, so bring it onGrin

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You said exactly what I was thinking!

Lokipoki · 10/10/2024 07:05

This happened at a festival called Bangface. It wasn’t being used by the usual holiday makers with families and kids but by a several hundred young festival goers. A lot of which have blue hair.

SorenLorensonsInvisibleFriend · 10/10/2024 07:07

I have blue hair and I'm a TERF. Too early in the morning to be hurt by people on the internet though.

Good on the Butlins security.

TheBleachBoyz · 10/10/2024 07:08

Bangface is a festival which takes over the entire camp. There would not be any under 18s on site @NPET

It is also a festival that will have TWAW as a core belief. Therefore the security staff would not have been acting in line with the organisers’ policies.

Lokipoki · 10/10/2024 07:10

SorenLorensonsInvisibleFriend · 10/10/2024 07:07

I have blue hair and I'm a TERF. Too early in the morning to be hurt by people on the internet though.

Good on the Butlins security.

Glad to hear that! No offence intended. Especially at 7am!

PriOn1 · 10/10/2024 07:41

Someone must have been distressed enough by finding those men in there to report it. And really. five male people in the toilet at the same time, lingering long enough that someone was able to call security and wait for them to arrive?

I don’t think they just wanted to pee…

BettyFilous · 10/10/2024 07:43

TheBleachBoyz · 10/10/2024 07:08

Bangface is a festival which takes over the entire camp. There would not be any under 18s on site @NPET

It is also a festival that will have TWAW as a core belief. Therefore the security staff would not have been acting in line with the organisers’ policies.

It’s only partially relevant that this was an over 18s event. The important takeaway is that Butlins were cowed by TRA pressure and their security staff are unlikely risk their jobs by challenging males in their female facilities in future. They basically just rolled out a welcome mat for any predator who wants to exploit this policy and operational loophole to access women and children in their female facilities. For a company that largely serves families, it’s not the sharpest business strategy.

TheBleachBoyz · 10/10/2024 07:48

The nature of Bangface is relevant, though. It’s not a literary or a cooking festival. It’s a dance festival that is very “woke”, if you care for that phrase.The majority of the attendees will believe TWAW. And it isn’t clear that anyone complained, as opposed to staff taking action (staff may be in the toilet area because of drug taking).

Glamourreader · 10/10/2024 08:03

There would have been no reason for them to fear using the men's toilets if the crowd was so trans accepting.

BlackToes · 10/10/2024 08:07

TheBleachBoyz · 10/10/2024 07:08

Bangface is a festival which takes over the entire camp. There would not be any under 18s on site @NPET

It is also a festival that will have TWAW as a core belief. Therefore the security staff would not have been acting in line with the organisers’ policies.

legislation around single sex provisions still apply.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 10/10/2024 08:07

Glamourreader · 10/10/2024 08:03

There would have been no reason for them to fear using the men's toilets if the crowd was so trans accepting.

Exactly!!!

AlisonDonut · 10/10/2024 08:09

TheBleachBoyz · 10/10/2024 07:48

The nature of Bangface is relevant, though. It’s not a literary or a cooking festival. It’s a dance festival that is very “woke”, if you care for that phrase.The majority of the attendees will believe TWAW. And it isn’t clear that anyone complained, as opposed to staff taking action (staff may be in the toilet area because of drug taking).

So it must have been quite a bad situation to call security then.

And also, no reason for them to be in the gents with all the other woke gents. Unless they are saying they are scared of their woke male friends?