Moira Deeming in Australia - thread 3

[TheSandgroper]

Following on from busy threads 1 and 2

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5167282-in-australia-moira-deeming-defamation-trial-now-on

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5172553-moira-deeming-defamation-trial-thread-2-from-australia

Keep on discussing, ladies. Change never happens in silence.

Hilarious. Pesutto could have escaped from this for $100 000 and no apology. He didn’t choose that option. Rumours are that his total costs, including Deeming’s legal costs, could be $4-5 million dollars. Ouch.

https://www.news.com.au/national/courts-law/secret-deal-to-avert-moira-deeming-defamation-case-that-could-have-saved-liberal-leader-millions/news-story/e44c3673fcf93235e35a35a1f83cd213

I’m listening to a Spaces (podcast type thing) on Twitter hosted by Edie Wyatt. One of the speakers, possibly ralo ralo, had just been to a Liberal Christmas function and attendees were asked to donate to Pesutto’s costs.

Going to need a bigger hat

I think I remember at the time KJK saying something about not being able to say anything about the settlement but she implied she didn't get anything from it without saying the words.

I'm absolutely intrigued and I guess so are KJK and Angie!

Yes he can. I’m sure Collins KC is advising him whether or not to pursue that. Maybe he’ll tell him to shut up and pay the bill before it costs him twice as much.

What sort of leader shits the bed for a seven figure laundry bill, then asks for a whip round when they're on a Christmas night out?

I think we've solved the exotic material problem for building Space Elevators and possibly even Dyson Objects. Just study his neck, that's not normal physics.

@BezMills An arrogant Liberal leader who still thinks he didn’t shit the bed and can’t smell anything and weren’t the sheets brown anyway?

Geek shade-throwing! Love it! 🤓🖖

Regarding the payment, I also want some answers. Without explanation, it looks dodgy. Was it perhaps a way of letting Pesutto claim that no money had been paid as part of the out-of-court settlement?

Sally Grover used/is using the lawyers named, so I hope the payment is not unethical.

The Melbourne arm of Guardian Australia is a bit stuck on this one. They don’t want the Liberals to take power in Victoria, but they likely still see Deeming as a horrible TERF bigot, so funnily enough the article comes out quite balanced🙃

FeralWoman · Today 10:14

Hilarious. Pesutto could have escaped from this for $100 000 and no apology. He didn’t choose that option. Rumours are that his total costs, including Deeming’s legal costs, could be $4-5 million dollars.

Great news! Wonderful and deserved outcome for Moira Deeming.

I've just skimmed through the judgment, and am looking forward to putting my feet up and savouring every delicious line, but this stood out:

557 I have no hesitation in saying that Mr Pesutto’s evidence at paragraph 45 of his first affidavit is untrue. Having said, on oath, that “in the circles in which I moved including the more mainstream parts of the community I was trying to attract to support the Party (in my view, the vast majority), Mrs Deeming had a bad reputation, particularly for giving succour to hateful and/or extreme social or political views”, when pressed about the allegation, he was unable to provide a skerrick of evidence to support it. That is a shameful state of affairs,

This looks like legalise for '...pants on fire', and is barely 'polite', as a PP described the judgment. It flatly, and 'without hesitation' says that Pesutto's evidence given under oath is untrue. So - lying, right?

Note to self: google 'skerrick'

skerrick - a microscopic spoon like implement used to feed single atoms into a particle accelerator. That might not be the actual definition but it is the scale we're talking about.

😂
I've googled it, but I prefer your definition!

Skerrick is a scrap of something, a tiny bit of something, a trace of something.

The Twitter space is still live. They’re pulling things apart. It’s called All Hail Moira Deeming.

Apparently Peta Credlin interviewed Deeming on Sky News tonight. I hate Sky News but I might have to make myself watch the video. Video here:
www.news.com.au/national/peta-credlin-sits-down-with-moira-deeming-following-defamation-victory/video/7155374c93c2adcfbcc2b527d3265b23

KJK just joined and started speaking.
https://x.com/msediewyatt/status/1867131798481981878

‘But Pesutto would not be drawn on how he would pay the $300,000 damages bill and possibly millions more in legal costs.
“I don’t want any Victorians to be worried about how I’ll pay my bills,” he said.’

Wanting to know how a politician is going to rustle up such a massive wodge of cash is perfectly legitimate, the ‘worry’ isn’t that he’ll be personally destitute, but that he’ll be susceptible to taking brown envelopes round the back of the town hall.

the sky video is amazing, you should watch it. The interviewer gives Moira plenty room to speak and she gets to say her piece. Needless to say Pesutto is getting a royal republican shoeing.

FeralWoman · Today 10:43

The Twitter space is still live. They’re pulling things apart. It’s called All Hail Moira Deeming.

I can't believe that he was reckless enough to refuse to accept a letter, offering to compromise, for $99,000. He evidently knew that he was lying and tried to rely on waffling and bulldozing, which doesn't seem to work in courts! He's more of an idiot that I had hitherto realised.

Listening to KJK giving a stirring speech in the space.

Same, @Helleofabore - I expected more of a national broadcaster which is supposed to be neutral.

According to Pesutto, because the judge didn’t use the words “Pesutto was lying”, the judgement doesn’t say Pesutto lied at all!

You mean the chap who was recognised as ‘slippery’, and that he gave ‘untrue’ evidence to the court. Well, I’m sure he is much more virtuous behind closed doors.

You'd have to have a heart of stone not to laugh wouldn't you.

The absolute self righteous: I am right you are all wrong, wrong, wrong, you don't know what you are talking about, Moria Deeming is a Christian that makes her wrong, wrong, wrong.

I will not be magnanimous in victory, I will crow about it - sorry, not sorry.

“Moira Deeming’s defamation win shows nobody cannot play fast and loose with language, even politicians.”
and

“As this case has shown, you cannot play fast and loose with politically-loaded slurs.”

These have to be the most ironic lines from an article in ‘the Conversation’, as they play fast and loose with politically-loaded slurs on women’s rights. An article that cannot give even any quarter to women’s rights as a thing, even in this very article. Always ‘anti-trans’. Well, if this recent anti-science,
’trans’ fad is essentially misogynistic and against child safeguarding, you could dress it up like that.