Moira Deeming in Australia - thread 3

[TheSandgroper]

Following on from busy threads 1 and 2

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5167282-in-australia-moira-deeming-defamation-trial-now-on

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5172553-moira-deeming-defamation-trial-thread-2-from-australia

Keep on discussing, ladies. Change never happens in silence.

And yet, we were told categorically that she absolutely was controversial and that we absolutely didn't know what we were talking about.

Groan, yes, I forgotten about that bloody bat shit derailing bollocks

Wasn’t just us who found Pesutto infuriating. So did the Judge!
https://x.com/MrSteveHolland/status/1866991928778297739

Oh wow, another win! Well done Moira! 💐

She won!!! 🥳

Great news! I'll read the judgement properly tomorrow. I do hope there is something in there about the ies told about KJK and Angie Jones.

Costs 😁

Brief video of Deeming’s victory walk from court. Big smile from her.
https://x.com/WilliamHTon/status/1866993095520510240

The DM says this could cost Pesutto $2m!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14183957/Moira-Deeming-defamation-win-John-Pesutto.html

Glad the newspaper reminds readers that the Nazis were escorted by the Police.

Where did I put that minuscule stringed instrument?

On dear never mind!

https://x.com/MoiraDeemingMP/status/1866997178880987321?t=dGbEwnL3OmAT6E6PyDrwiA&s=19

MEDIA STATEMENT FROM MOIRA DEEMING MP

I am grateful to God for this outcome, to the Court for its careful and prompt consideration of my case and to my lawyers whose dedication, expertise and integrity is unmatched.

The Judge found that I was defamed in five separate publications and that each of those also caused serious harm to my reputation. Every single one of Mr Pesutto’s defences, failed.

This judgment is a public acknowledgment that there was never any justification- legal, moral or political - for what the Opposition Leader did to me and to my family.

The organisers and attendees of the 2023 Melbourne “Let Women Speak” Rally did nothing wrong and it is shameful that they were treated without fairness or respect by so many in public office.

I will continue to fight for the rights of parents, women and children - and I know I won’t be alone.

I am pleased with this result and relieved to have been vindicated. It has been an incredibly tough 22 months for me and my family but I can now start to move forward with the judgment today clearing my name.

Thank you to everyone who stood by me and defended me despite personal and political differences and regardless of the cost – friends, strangers, opponents, Liberal members and colleagues. Thanks to everyone who prayed, wrote, donated and told the truth. And finally, thank you to my family, especially my husband.

Brilliant news. So good to see the win, and Moira walking out of court, smiling and head held high.

Pesutto didn't even show his face.

Bloody ABC still referring to the Let Women Speak rally as “Anti-trans”! They are so captured, they can’t see beyond their own biases.

https://x.com/ThePosieParker/status/1866998620492361856?t=fNCFeyvaLpHxSqd8STR1Sw&s=19

"On 18th March 2023 brave women gathered in Melbourne to speak about women’s rights and the safeguarding of children.

#LetWomenSpeakMelbourne was organised by women, including @MoiraDeemingMP and @angijones, to give a much needed voice to those who feel silenced by a captured media, dangerous medical profession and weak government.

What followed was the most egregious and calculated defamation and smear campaign to ensure our concerns were lost in vile, dishonest and, frankly, criminal accusations of the most serious nature. Unfortunately I am familiar with this tactic from those who intend to, at best, stand aside whilst children are harmed and women’s rights are erased and, at worst, cheer it on and promote such abominations.

Standing in the way of this evil are many good women willing to risk it all.

Moira Deeming stood firm, for all of us, and held the dishonest cowards to account.

I’m truly privileged to call her my friend.

Thank you, Moira.

#DeemingvPesutto
#HoldTheLine"

Having spent the last hour and bit reading through the judgement, I get the feeling that the Judge feels Mr Pesutto is a bit dim (for not drawing ordinary meanings and conclustions from things he relied on as proof he was right but which were proof he was wrong) and waffly (he often describes Pesutto as using 'loose language').

The Judge stops short of saying that Pesutto lied in the witness box, and in his evidentiary statements, but the Judge does draw attention to Pesutto's politician style of answering questions, his not informing the Court that a recording of a meeting existed, and his leaving parts of articles and videos out of his submission that would not have been favourable to his case. And in discussing one answer Pesutto gave to a straightforward question, the Judge quotes it in full and then largely describes the paragraph as "I don't know what that was intended to convey" - I am learning to enjoy Judicial shade-throwing 😊

The list of terrible things people have said about Moira, the friends she's lost, and the nasty things that have been done to her after Pesutto went on his media blitz about her were dreadful and I believe her (and her witnesses) when she says she may not be the same person after what happened to her.

The Judge stops short of saying that Pesutto lied in the witness box, and in his evidentiary statements, but the Judge does draw attention to Pesutto's politician style of answering questions, his not informing the Court that a recording of a meeting existed, and his leaving parts of articles and videos out of his submission that would not have been favourable to his case.

Presumably this will all count against him when it comes to costs?

John Pesutto urged to resign after Moira Deeming wins defamation case over ‘neo-Nazi’ comments

Victoria’s opposition leader, John Pesutto, is facing calls to resign after a federal court found he defamed his fellow Liberal MP Moira Deeming in comments made after neo-Nazis gatecrashed a rally she helped organise.

As part of a damning judgment handed down by justice David O’Callaghan on Thursday, Pesutto was ordered to pay Deeming $300,000 for the damage to her reputation he caused on five separate occasions after the Let Women Speak rally on 18 March 2023.

O’Callaghan found Pesutto’s comments in a media release conveyed she was “unfit to belong to the Victorian parliamentary Liberal party because she knowingly associates with neo-Nazis”, while an 3AW interview conveyed she “associates with Nazis”.

An ABC radio interview, meanwhile, conveyed she “knowingly associates or sympathises with neo-Nazis and white supremacists” while his press conference the day after the rally conveyed she worked with the rally organiser, Kellie Jay Keen, and others to “promote their odious Nazi agenda and their white supremacist and ethno-facist views”, O’Callaghan found.

A dossier he created to justify her expulsion from the party room, conveyed she was likely to “bring discredit on the Victorian parliament … by organising, promoting and attending” the Let Women Speak rally, he said.

Immediately following the judgment, the deputy premier, Ben Carroll, called on Pesutto to resign and said his integrity was “completely in shreds”.

Continues...

Story by Benita Kolovos Victorian state correspondent for The Guardian

LOL!

For Moira and lots of 🍾

I hope KJK is loving this!!

Hours later and Pesutto is still number one trending on Twitter in Australia. Not Deeming. It’s all about saying he should resign and should have said sorry.

He’s held a press conference and doubled down on not stepping back from leadership of the Vic Libs. Dickhead.

https://x.com/ausvstheagenda/status/1867051664139751890

Meanwhile Deeming has doubled down on fighting for sex based rights for women and children, parental rights, and safeguarding children.

https://x.com/ausvstheagenda/status/1867017737546924104

Does anyone know how to extract the video from a tweet and post it so those not on Twitter can view it?

Yass well done all

Pesutto learned that identifying oneself as being on The Right Side of History is a flimsy defence when things get properly serious.

Bigoted employers in Employment Tribunals in the UK have been learning this for years.

I'm tempted to read back all the WRONG posts on this thread from earlier. It wouldn't really be your olympic standard, but I think they'd get a game at county level in the Being Wrong On The Internet League

Self quoting for VINDICATION, sorry not sorry I can't help myself.