Moira Deeming defamation trial - Thread 2 from Australia

[TheSandgroper]

Thread 1 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5167282-in-australia-moira-deeming-defamation-trial-now-on?page=40&reply=138525746

Tribunal Tweets Substack https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/moira-deeming-v-john-pesutto-a-case?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share. Thanks to @BezMills

Thanks to everyone on thread 1. I am pleased it generated such interest and conversations. I have learnt a lot from many very bright women.

Yes. A thread was started and Justine made the decision.

And so the split was made, creating a dichotomy: tumbleweedcrickets/busyboard.

When was this, was it more than a couple of years ago?

Yes. Because some posters felt that it should be done. So the split happened.

Years ago. I'll have a think.

Now I understand how the jealousy accusations have arisen.

And also why this board is being used to voice views which, on the face of it, seem the opposite of GC.

Possibly 2012, but I am tired and can't vouch for the veracity of this.

Thanks, PollyDactyl. I haven't been on Mumsnet all that long - compared to some - and I'd been posting for several months before I even realised there was another feminism board! I thought references to "the naughty step" were about the feminism section being separate from the rest of Mumsnet, not separate from a main feminism board.

Snowy I think this was it.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/sitestuff/4267223-Any-chance-of-a-review-of-the-FWR-moderation-rules-in-light-of-Maya-Forstaters-success-in-court-please?page=1

2021

I think by the end of the thread Justine announced the split. I could have the wrong one. Mn is glitching on my phone right now so it is hard to check properly.

Thanks, Helleofabore.

@CassieMaddox ”KJKs rallies are mostly known for attracting aggro. ”

Some right nasty bast*rds certainly turn up to try to attack and harangue women who are raising and speaking about issues which are trampling on our rights’. The police should stop and apprehend the violent thugs, shouldn’t they? Stop their ‘aggro’.

Then again nasty bugg*rs used to attack and harangue people on civil rights marches. It’s not a new thing.

One or two I’d probably remember. Maybe those horrible women who were haranguing a man by going on about his ‘nazi baby’. Not to mention the presence of ‘protesters’ who had prior accusations of sex assaults. At least one convicted kidnapper, torturer and murderer. Just the type you’d imagine don’t want women to be able to speak freely. Quite a nasty collection really.

It is international as well. I think it KJK was truly inspired to start it. I think it gives women in different countries courage to organise. And co-operate. It makes you realise we are half the world - and shouldn’t let the bast*rds grind us down.

Here was when it was all done and dusted.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4276803-so-mumsnet-ignored-our-request-to-have-something-to-do-with-feminism-or-women-in-the-name-of-the-naughty-step-subtopic?page=1

Thanks again.

I like JKR. Because she's an actual feminist. I doubt Deeming calls herself a feminist and I know KJK doesn't.

This is completely incorrect.
I started a thread a couple of years before the board actually split because I was finding feminism was getting lost in all the trans threads. It was declined.

If I didn't want to discuss trans stuff I wouldn't be here

I'll find the thread to link in a mo and you'll see this is a total mischaracterisation. I feel like I say this every time it comes up and yet you all revert to the "you didn't want to be bothered with all the 'anti trans' stuff.". Which is nonsense.

This thread is not fully relevant is it - itz about the name not the split

It is international as well. I think it KJK was truly inspired to start it. I think it gives women in different countries courage to organise. And co-operate. It makes you realise we are half the world - and shouldn’t let the bast*rds grind us down.

Yes, it is truly inspiring to many women in a way most of the haters, both TRAs and socfems alike, don't fully understand, and disparage.

It is about the timing. June 2021.

If you care to notice I said that change had already occurred when posting the link.

But Thank you.

One or two I’d probably remember. Maybe those horrible women who were haranguing a man by going on about his ‘nazi baby’.

Yes one was Loyd Russell Moyle's staff member IIRC. Weird young women shouting at a baby.

Carly May Kavanagh

Heres my thread - from 2017.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/site_stuff/2864237-Please-could-we-have-a-trans-issues-sub-board-in-feminism?page=1

The thread helle linked discussing the split was 2021.

So a bit unfair to 1) misrepresent my position repeatedly and 2) claim I had anything to do with the split.

Actually the trajectory I noticed happening then has got worse. Not much feminism, a lot of "sex based realism".

Maybe people can stop bringing it up in the manner of some sort of gotcha now.

And the baby was a MNer’s baby.

Oh yes I remember her posts now.