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Surely Mridul Wadhwa has to go now? Report into ERCC out.

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 12/09/2024 12:12

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13842189/Edinburgh-Crisis-Centre-designed-protect-women-suffered-sexual-violence-condemned-failing-damning-report.html

Pretty scathing. Wadhwa cannot stay surely?

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Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 13/09/2024 09:03

MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/09/2024 08:36

It is exhausting isn't it?. There are a number of other charities, the NHS, the civil service where men like this have been promoted and appear to use their power to enforce this ideology as opposed to doing their job.

I can think of some highly inappropriate medics using their trans status to promote the transitioning of children as an example. While really such a personal investment in a controversial ideology where the harm it does to children is now evident, should be seen as an immediate professional "conflict of interest" .

This. MW is awful, but let's not pretend he's the only one. He's definitely not. It's a feature of transideology, not a bug.

Of course LangCleg always used to say - if you create a group of people that is exempt from safeguarding rules then you attract abusers.

We used to know this in safeguarding, but it's seemingly been forgotten - or people have been forced to pretend it's not still true.

I wonder how many cases such as this we'll have before journalists are brave enough to join the dots.

GailBlancheViola · 13/09/2024 09:08

highame · 13/09/2024 08:42

What about the rape crisis centres in the UK that have been forced to close because they had a policy of sex rather than gender. Their local authorities withdrew funding. I'm thinking about Brighton. I'm not up to date with how that all panned out does anyone know? The broader implications of this case have an impact or was the most important area just getting rid of MW. The broader implications being a confirmation that women are entitled to single sex spaces and people who state that view and are sacked, are being discriminated against?

This case has to have broader implications and the Government have to be tough and make sure it does, the phrase damaging already traumatised women has to be repeated every time they wobble and whitter on about the toxic debate. This is a Government that has pledged to reduce VAWG by 50%, single sex absolutely women only spaces and services are part and parcel of that and if they need to be reminded every hour of every day then they will have to be.

Local Authorities that refuse to comply and insist on gender rather than sex will have to have draconian measures taken against them until they do.

The time for asking nicely and expecting decency and reasonableness in return has long gone, imposition is the only route left now. Let's see if the current Government have the guts and strength to do so.

CorruptedCauldron · 13/09/2024 09:10

Beeb article here. A brief mention of Beira’s Place (but no mention of the fact MW refused to signpost vulnerable women there).

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2edeyzz0xmo

ArabellaScott · 13/09/2024 09:23

highame · 13/09/2024 08:42

What about the rape crisis centres in the UK that have been forced to close because they had a policy of sex rather than gender. Their local authorities withdrew funding. I'm thinking about Brighton. I'm not up to date with how that all panned out does anyone know? The broader implications of this case have an impact or was the most important area just getting rid of MW. The broader implications being a confirmation that women are entitled to single sex spaces and people who state that view and are sacked, are being discriminated against?

There were two women's services who lost funding which went to SACRO for 'gender inclusive' services instead. Monklands and Lanarkshire.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4175951-Monklands-Womans-Aid-lose-contract-given-to-gender-neutral-facilities

And of course there is the link to Mridhul Wadhwa's husband or partner who had links to SACRO.

guinnessguzzler · 13/09/2024 09:25

100% @Dumbledoreslemonsherbets and RCS have some nerve pointing out all the failings now when they were cheerleading MW's appointment and trying to silence anyone who spoke against it. This was all predictable; that the clear focus on ideology over support would cause problems, that someone so self-interested wouldn't make a good CEO, that appointing a male to this role wasn't right and wouldn't work long term. I don't feel sorry for MW but I do believe quite a number of people enabled this shit show, some very enthusiastically, and now expect getting rid of MW to fix it. I wonder how much they paid MW to go? It will show up in the Accounts for 24/25 so we'll find out by the end of next year if not before.

ArabellaScott · 13/09/2024 09:28

Just having a glance at Motherwell & District women's aid. They don't post much on X, but their last two posts, in 2022 and 2023 were about LGBTYS.

'Our service has been busy working hard for our silver LGBT youth Scotland Charter! We started this process in June 2022 and have been working to ensure our service is evolving and inclusive! '

x.com/DistrictAid

musicalfrog · 13/09/2024 09:35

He's gone. This (circled) feels significant from the BBC.

Surely Mridul Wadhwa has to go now? Report into ERCC out.
littlbrowndog · 13/09/2024 09:36

ZeldaFighter · 12/09/2024 14:48

Who hired this MAN (legally and biologically) to head a WOMAN'S service?

They are the second people I would fire, obviously after Mr Wadhwa.

Think Maggie Chapman from the greens was involved in this hiring.

but he had also been involved in other centres

scotland is riddled with the stuff. From government down

littlbrowndog · 13/09/2024 09:37

ArabellaScott · 13/09/2024 09:28

Just having a glance at Motherwell & District women's aid. They don't post much on X, but their last two posts, in 2022 and 2023 were about LGBTYS.

'Our service has been busy working hard for our silver LGBT youth Scotland Charter! We started this process in June 2022 and have been working to ensure our service is evolving and inclusive! '

x.com/DistrictAid

Riddled with this stuff and anxious to be seen as progressive

INeedAPensieve · 13/09/2024 09:45

Thanks @ArabellaScott It's horrifying. I can't believe they infiltrated women's aid organisations like that and defunded ones providing single sex services. The absolute audacity of them. Our government are fucking evil. And culpable in all this. It wasn't just Maggie Chapman's hand that got MW into this position. Plenty of pictures of him with the 'real' feminist Nicola sturgeon too. She's accountable too. And again, I see that the paedophile enabling organisation LGBTYS rearing it's head. When are they going to be investigated???

RedToothBrush · 13/09/2024 09:52

ArabellaScott · 13/09/2024 09:28

Just having a glance at Motherwell & District women's aid. They don't post much on X, but their last two posts, in 2022 and 2023 were about LGBTYS.

'Our service has been busy working hard for our silver LGBT youth Scotland Charter! We started this process in June 2022 and have been working to ensure our service is evolving and inclusive! '

x.com/DistrictAid

Police Scotland recorded 14,602 incidents of sexual crime in 2022-23. 2,529 of these concerned rape or attempted rape and 5,282 were sexual assault. 94% of rape or attempted rape victims were female and 86% of sexual assault victims were female.

Just a reminder.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 13/09/2024 09:57

Do we think the message is getting across at all, or are these people so deeply captured by gender ideology that nothing will make them see sense?

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2024 09:58

Think Maggie Chapman from the greens was involved in this hiring.

Which would be unsurprising as MW was a member after MW left the SNP in high dudgeon after they voted to let women choose to have a same sex rather than gender forensic examiner.

fromorbit · 13/09/2024 09:59

musicalfrog · 13/09/2024 09:35

He's gone. This (circled) feels significant from the BBC.

Finally ! Thanks to all the amazing women and decent men who fought for this for years.

Now to sort out the rest of the mess. We are winning. Bit by bit! Lots more to do.

nauticant · 13/09/2024 10:04

This story is on Woman's Hour on Radio 4 now.

nauticant · 13/09/2024 10:05

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0022sjm

CriticalCondition · 13/09/2024 10:06

On R4 Woman's Hour now.

nauticant · 13/09/2024 10:09

Anita Rani: Where can rape survivors in Edinburgh go now?

Reporter: They can still self-refer to ERCC but also they can go to Beira's Place set up by JKR.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2024 10:11

I missed the first bit, did they actually refer to the fact that Wadhwa is male?

Moonshiners · 13/09/2024 10:12

It's good to see that the reporter is using they not she

maltravers · 13/09/2024 10:12

Oh my! I can’t believe it was covered in such detail. Well done reporter Lorna Gordon.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2024 10:12

The other woman seems to have changed Wadhwa's gender to non binary half way through, she started off she/hering and then moved to "they".

CriticalCondition · 13/09/2024 10:14

Throughout the piece the reporter referred to MW by name and as 'they'.

Anita Rani used 'she'.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2024 10:16

That's good, I must have misheard. Thought she said "herself". Did they mention the objections to Wadhwa were because MW was "trans" or "male"?

Theeyeballsinthesky · 13/09/2024 10:18

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 13/09/2024 09:57

Do we think the message is getting across at all, or are these people so deeply captured by gender ideology that nothing will make them see sense?

I honestly don’t know. Certainly where I work the local authority, the NHS and every large brand charity is full of pronouns in emails, recording gender rather than sex even when their policies correctly reference sex as a protected characteristic and firmly be kind/jkr is a big meanie

I think they many of them still haven’t joined the dots plus they all have a handful of very proactive TRA in each organisation and I think even the ones who do get it just cannot be doing with the wearisome fight it would be to root out the ideology and/or need a job and know they’d probably be fired or sent for re education.