Surely Mridul Wadhwa has to go now? Report into ERCC out.

[GargoylesofBeelzebub]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13842189/Edinburgh-Crisis-Centre-designed-protect-women-suffered-sexual-violence-condemned-failing-damning-report.html

Pretty scathing. Wadhwa cannot stay surely?

I particularly liked the commentator who suggested Brindley should reframe her trauma.

Yes - so did the other commentators judging by the number of recommendations!

Brindley has no shame, supporting MW after he stropped off and left the SNP over the six word amendment and let's be clear what that amendment was it was to allow raped, sexually assaulted, traumatised women to request a person of the same sex to examine them. If MW's temper tantrum over that did not ring alarm bells for Brindley then what the hell would? Using traumatised women to validate men who claim to be women is beyond evil, MW had showed their hand clearly and unequivocally and yet Brindley (and several other MSPs et al let's not forget) still supported MW.

The whole thing is beyond repellent.

If she has the backing of the board, then the board is not fit for purpose. Jesus fucking Christ this is all utterly, utterly disgusting.

Thank you, as always, to everyone on FWR who works tirelessly to keep the receipts and do the research

Another article in the Times today:
https://www.thetimes.com/article/4ab96950-a165-4ac4-829c-dca2f2674dad?shareToken=6023562acfa1817bfe0a1d8784fda1ef

Thanks for the share.

The awful thing is that over and over again it's down to high profile ppl to challenge before some are held to account. Safeguarding strategies aren't working.

Now JK Rowling blasts 'arrogant' Rape Crisis boss https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13879363/JK-Rowling-blasts-arrogant-Rape-Crisis-boss-row-controversial-support-centre-led-trans-woman.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton
The mail are running with this too

This is such a good article - quotes JKR at length, and refers to Sex Matters as a human rights charity. Thanks for sharing it.

Archive of the Times article. https://archive.ph/1v4v2

I don't know if anyone else has found that the Times is putting up an 'accept personalised ads pop up' blocking the reader even with a share token?

Excellent articles, both.

Jesus, that is really chilling. It's quite clear that these centres have been deliberately targeted.

The very concept of women only anything is like catnip to these people. The people who make the bloody spaces necessary in the first place.

Yes, as a PP said, it's absolutely beyond repellent.

As are they. Fucking hell.

And you've got this woman in complete thrall to them.

Will the scales ever fall, I wonder? Will she ever catch sight of herself in the mirror and think hold on...

Those receipts are something else.
I think sometimes people get so embedded in word games they forget that what they're saying is meant to be.... true

https://www.threads.net/@thurstyreads/post/DANMJMpg7R6/

Your comment has reminded me of this thread I read this morning.

This woman, living in Canada, clearly has a lot of LGBT+ friends, posting a depressingly believable account of how a predatory straight man ruined her night out with her friends at an LGBT+ venue.

She would no doubt consider women like us to be awful bigoted TERFs and yet I can't help but feel that the difference between what she is saying and what we are saying is absolutely minimal. Women and minority groups should be able to have and enjoy their own things without entitled males demanding access and ruining these spaces for the people they are actually for (and worse).

I get that she considers herself an LGBT+ ally (and for what it's worth, I would not expect single sex spaces in the kind of venue that she was in, and if I ever went to a venue like that myself I would naturally expect it to be full self ID), but it must take an enormous amount of cognitive disonnance to complain - entirely validly - about this, and yet not accept that women should be entitled to have their own sporting categories and rape crisis groups without being forced to include male people.

It's a hell of a blind spot.

The very concept of women only anything is like catnip to these people. The people who make the bloody spaces necessary in the first place.

This. You see it with women's networks, you see it with Facebook groups, you see it with rape crisis centres. Anything for women only must be destroyed or forced to accept men.

The second comment was interesting. A gay man expressing his dislike of straight women invading his space. I've heard that before from gay friends.
As depicted here, the straight guys follow the women in.

Well done Glasgow and Clyde for being very clear!

That thread though makes for a distressing read.

I've read this thread twice now all the way through. It's very depressing. I'm also enraged that Sandy still hasn't stepped down. The board and trustees too; all of them have failed women in such a spectacular way. It's awful.

I keep thinking that Brindley will just go on leave like Wadhwa did. And that it will all happen in the future.

But it really needs to be dealt with now for the sake of restoring confidence to the sector. I doubt an apology will ever be enough. It needs to be an acknowledgment of loss of confidence.

Sometimes, this is the way that it has to happen. A high-profile person needs to go in order to draw the clichéd line under something.

They will be picked up elsewhere after a very short time. They will be acclaimed for their leadership and good sense plus the recognition that Nolan meant that they have to behave as if Caesar's Wife etc.

But, yes. This is the time for a peer or very senior people to have an, "In the name of God, go" moment with SB, whether they frame it as protecting the reputation of RCS or the entire sector.

All those centres available for men should they need them, and yet they still had tantrums and threatened to sue because one new centre was created that was female-only.

They see 'female-only' and just can't resist cocking their leg and pissing over it to mark it as their territory.

So grim.

Yep. There will be some new term, freshly coined, to describe the phenomenon that means the more 'male only' centres you have, the fewer men need them.

Apologies if this article has been posted already, I couldn't see it, but it's a good one and really sticks the knife into our politicians in Scotland. They are complicit in all of this too.

https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/scots-politicians-would-like-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-scandal-to-simply-vanish-4791974

https://wingsoverscotland.com/a-danger-to-women/

'It’s very difficult not to join the dots and draw a direct line between Sharon Cowan, Sandy Brindley and the subversion and subsuming of rape crisis services in Scotland into a tool for the promotion of “the politics of queerness”, at the expense of some of the most vulnerable people in the country who have nowhere else to turn.'

It makes me furious to read that. We all knew, 2 years ago, what would happen, and they just charged ahead removing our rights, even without the GRC getting passed. Fuckers.

As for Sandy "I had no idea" Brindley, well I've known for ages what was going on at ERCC re single-sex provision, and I'm nobody. Of course she knew.

...it's very difficult to remain radical and transgressive all the time because the system is continually adapting to accommodate you, so you have to continually step outside that moment of transgression to a further moment of transgression and keep pushing.

So if she can't find anything to transgress, she'll fucking invent something??

Like having a right go at rape survivors for not enjoying being lorded over by a man in a dress?

You know your life's principles are fucking shit, when they lead you down an insane path of sticking it to rape survivors