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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"Trump is the only hope for the world. I hope Americans can see this."

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crimplepop · 11/09/2024 16:36

KJK going off on one again. Can you see it yet?

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AccidentallyWesAnderson · 14/09/2024 13:45

MessinaBloom · 14/09/2024 13:40

@AccidentallyWesAnderson

Why is this woman causing a few on here to be so enraged?

Extremely predictable response. I've almost filled my bingo card.

My bingo card was filled a long time ago.

Right wing
Husband is the biggest pro trans person to walk the earth because of a few words on a website.
Trump.
Have we had Far Right?
Financed by the Far Right.

I genuinely am still interested in why some are so enraged by her? Because she's voting for Trump?

Can anyone attempt to articulate it? Anyone?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 14/09/2024 13:46

Your bingo card is apt though. She really does live rent free in people's heads and enrages a lot of people.

cantreallyno · 14/09/2024 13:52

timenowplease · 14/09/2024 11:07

Whether it's true or not it's irrelevant to her position. Women are allowed to have different opinions to their husband. Right?

you don't think there is a discussion to be had? given her hard line stance, and her refusal to make any concessions on her 'single issue'??

EasternStandard · 14/09/2024 14:09

cantreallyno · 14/09/2024 13:52

you don't think there is a discussion to be had? given her hard line stance, and her refusal to make any concessions on her 'single issue'??

About this other person? No

I'd say he's irrelevant. Women can have their own views and organise their own funding

cantreallyno · 14/09/2024 14:24

EasternStandard · 14/09/2024 14:09

About this other person? No

I'd say he's irrelevant. Women can have their own views and organise their own funding

how is her husband irrelevant. he is integral to her life/lifestyle, her family, her security etc. and yet she is so critical of 'people who voted labour' for example because the Labour party 'dont know what a woman is'....she is advocating for Trump apparently BECAUSE KH isn't anti trans etc. She advocates for ignoring all the other policies on any other subject of left wing political parties because opposing trans encroaching on women's rights is the ONLY thing that matters

do as I say, not as I do...it totally undermines her position imo

EasternStandard · 14/09/2024 14:26

cantreallyno · 14/09/2024 14:24

how is her husband irrelevant. he is integral to her life/lifestyle, her family, her security etc. and yet she is so critical of 'people who voted labour' for example because the Labour party 'dont know what a woman is'....she is advocating for Trump apparently BECAUSE KH isn't anti trans etc. She advocates for ignoring all the other policies on any other subject of left wing political parties because opposing trans encroaching on women's rights is the ONLY thing that matters

do as I say, not as I do...it totally undermines her position imo

It's intrusive and you won't know about him really so it's just gossipy speculation

Let women make their own decisions and be held up in their own right.

His wealth or attitude is not part of it

lifeturnsonadime · 14/09/2024 14:28

cantreallyno · 14/09/2024 14:24

how is her husband irrelevant. he is integral to her life/lifestyle, her family, her security etc. and yet she is so critical of 'people who voted labour' for example because the Labour party 'dont know what a woman is'....she is advocating for Trump apparently BECAUSE KH isn't anti trans etc. She advocates for ignoring all the other policies on any other subject of left wing political parties because opposing trans encroaching on women's rights is the ONLY thing that matters

do as I say, not as I do...it totally undermines her position imo

So what? This doesn’t mean that other people can’t agree with her on trans issues or that the fact she has provided a platform for women to speak when no-one else has isn’t a positive thing for getting the message out about the harms being done to women in the name of trans rights.

cantreallyno · 14/09/2024 14:28

EasternStandard · 14/09/2024 14:26

It's intrusive and you won't know about him really so it's just gossipy speculation

Let women make their own decisions and be held up in their own right.

His wealth or attitude is not part of it

her double standards ARE part of it

cantreallyno · 14/09/2024 14:29

lifeturnsonadime · 14/09/2024 14:28

So what? This doesn’t mean that other people can’t agree with her on trans issues or that the fact she has provided a platform for women to speak when no-one else has isn’t a positive thing for getting the message out about the harms being done to women in the name of trans rights.

but it's ok if her husband's business advocates for the erasure of women's rights?

EasternStandard · 14/09/2024 14:29

cantreallyno · 14/09/2024 14:28

her double standards ARE part of it

You don't know someone else's marriage or relationship

Try to separate women from the people they are married to. If someone is looking to get into a market, get funding, or grow a business they can do it without mention of a man

lifeturnsonadime · 14/09/2024 14:33

cantreallyno · 14/09/2024 14:29

but it's ok if her husband's business advocates for the erasure of women's rights?

Frankly I don’t know anything about her husband , why should her what her husband does or doesn’t do make any difference to the message which is a scientific truth that women are adult human females.

When a women believes something then I don’t look at what her husband thinks to cross check. My husband and I don’t agree on quite a few political issues.m either.

BezMills · 14/09/2024 14:33

Still think she's a ledge, still disagree about Trump.

Can you picture the shrug a French waiter might make, if you tell him there's nothing vegetarian on the menu? It's quite a small shrug. You could call it a micro shrug.
Imagine me making one of them.

That's my care factor

timenowplease · 14/09/2024 14:37

cantreallyno · 14/09/2024 13:52

you don't think there is a discussion to be had? given her hard line stance, and her refusal to make any concessions on her 'single issue'??

I imagine they've discussed it loads. What she and her husband do is none of my business. It's none of yours either, even though you'd like to insert yourself.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 14/09/2024 14:41

cantreallyno · 14/09/2024 14:29

but it's ok if her husband's business advocates for the erasure of women's rights?

How can you tell from that statement that his business ‘advocates for the erasure of women’s rights’. It’s such a stretch.

I am pro trans in that I don’t think they should be discriminated on the basis of the human rights they already hold. Refusing to serve someone in a shop, refusing medical treatment, not giving them employment because they are trans - no.

Giving transwomen - additional privileges based on inner feelings that no one has to collude with, such as going into spaces and competing in sporting teams not meant for them, or agree that they are actually women, no I do not agree with that. Does that make one ‘anti-trans’. TRA’s would say so. I don’t.

Maybe her husband feels the same. Why doesn’t someone ask her husband. What I do know is that you can’t deduce anything from that website statement.

EasternStandard · 14/09/2024 14:45

People seem to be latching on to some strange things but it's fairly standard these days for companies to have diversity statements as the one below

That's the environment we're in and businesses will be risk adverse

That still doesn't mean people can't try to change things through campaigning

BezMills · 14/09/2024 14:49

Well he spends as much time on mumsnet as his wife - perhaps, for all we know, more

Murica · 14/09/2024 14:51

I used to have an ex whose family were anti Catholic WASPy types.

They would make ridiculous claims about what Catholics believed. They would say such outrageous shit that I would find myself defending Catholicism even though I'm an atheist. They believed that since I was raised Catholic, I had to do everything the pope said. These threads feel just like that.

timenowplease · 14/09/2024 14:51

There once was a woman called Kellie
She was able to live fully rent free
She lived in their heads
But not in their beds
We don't know if her husband is GC

cantreallyno · 14/09/2024 15:24

How can you tell from that statement that his business ‘advocates for the erasure of women’s rights’. It’s such a stretch

I mean this is central to JKJ campaign. that is the point. all these companies making diversity statements and supporting TQ++ rights, pronouns etc....

cantreallyno · 14/09/2024 15:29

timenowplease · 14/09/2024 14:51

There once was a woman called Kellie
She was able to live fully rent free
She lived in their heads
But not in their beds
We don't know if her husband is GC

it's a conversation about what KJK said about Trump, so people are discussing KJK. it doesn't mean anybody thinks about KJK at any other time

this is the bizarreness of the JKJ supporters....have bingo cards, think anyone who criticises is obsessed, descend into limericks to avoid conversation, don't expect any kind of integrity

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 14/09/2024 15:35

It's not really just what KJK said about Trump though. It's the making it a 'GC women as a whole' problem, like they have to bear some responsibility as a collective. Which they don't.

timenowplease · 14/09/2024 15:37

cantreallyno · 14/09/2024 15:29

it's a conversation about what KJK said about Trump, so people are discussing KJK. it doesn't mean anybody thinks about KJK at any other time

this is the bizarreness of the JKJ supporters....have bingo cards, think anyone who criticises is obsessed, descend into limericks to avoid conversation, don't expect any kind of integrity

It's a 20 page thread. The conversation can go in many directions.

There are many people who seem to think about KJK all the time! They write essays and sign letters, they start threads on here, they use her initials in their username. They quite obviously do some very extensive stalking of her and her family.

But you have a problem with a few people defending her and writing a few excellent limericks? and question our integrity?

Ridiculous. But I'd expect nothing less.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 14/09/2024 15:41

cantreallyno

you did see the bingo card of *MessinaBloom *

Bingo cards, like many other things, go both ways on here

RufustheFactualReindeer · 14/09/2024 15:48

I have no interest in KJK, like others i think the let women speak thing is very good but I only really hear about her on threads people start to ‘criticise’ her

i know there are praise threads but lets be honest they are outnumbered by the ‘criticise’ ones

so having said that I do think the whole ‘husband has different views’ thing is a stretch

RufustheFactualReindeer · 14/09/2024 15:48

Bit desperate really

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