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"Trump is the only hope for the world. I hope Americans can see this."

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crimplepop · 11/09/2024 16:36

KJK going off on one again. Can you see it yet?

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Grammarnut · 13/09/2024 15:50

But not proved, presumably. I don't like Trump, but one should stick to the facts, which are that a court would not convict him.

CassieMaddox · 13/09/2024 15:51

RaspberryParade · 13/09/2024 15:39

This is such a depressing thread, the lack of broader understanding is scary, Turkeys voting for Christmas or Trump.
"I believe he has womens and childrens best interests at heart"
How can women who are so sensitive,supposedly, to liars predators abusers and gaslighters come to that conclusion?
I mean he has repeatedly, for decades now publicly lusted after his own daughter ffs!
Bizarre.
But maybe just maybe, the posters arent actually women, rather male maga.
Given Trumps record with women, its the only logical conclusion.

To vote for a woman hater like Trump as a woman, has to be the most self defeating handmaids tale behaviour I've ever heard.
As to English women touting him, for bloody shame! He will be disastrous for Britain and Europe, on every level.

It is a depressing thread but I'm not sure it's fair to infer posters are male.

I think over time the demographic of the board has changed from strident radical feminists to more "tradwife" type posters with conservative views of gender roles, caused by the freedom to discuss transgender issues.

Each to their own but it can be jarring to debate things that feel like "feminism 101" (such as why men like Trump are dangerous to women).

I wish we could get back to a radical feminist analysis of gender on here Sad

CassieMaddox · 13/09/2024 15:52

Grammarnut · 13/09/2024 15:50

But not proved, presumably. I don't like Trump, but one should stick to the facts, which are that a court would not convict him.

A court has convicted him. It was a civil court, not a criminal court. And talking about "innocent until proven guilty" in respect of allegations of rape tends not to be a feminist act, given how few rapists see any kind of justice.

timenowplease · 13/09/2024 15:54

RaspberryParade · 13/09/2024 15:39

This is such a depressing thread, the lack of broader understanding is scary, Turkeys voting for Christmas or Trump.
"I believe he has womens and childrens best interests at heart"
How can women who are so sensitive,supposedly, to liars predators abusers and gaslighters come to that conclusion?
I mean he has repeatedly, for decades now publicly lusted after his own daughter ffs!
Bizarre.
But maybe just maybe, the posters arent actually women, rather male maga.
Given Trumps record with women, its the only logical conclusion.

To vote for a woman hater like Trump as a woman, has to be the most self defeating handmaids tale behaviour I've ever heard.
As to English women touting him, for bloody shame! He will be disastrous for Britain and Europe, on every level.

Again with the stupid alarmist nonsense.

As to English women touting him, for bloody shame! He will be disastrous for Britain and Europe, on every level.

Can you explain what you mean by this? If you're referring to a ceasefire and peace talks in Ukraine then yes, that would be disastrous for us......NOT 🙄

CassieMaddox · 13/09/2024 16:03

timenowplease · 13/09/2024 15:54

Again with the stupid alarmist nonsense.

As to English women touting him, for bloody shame! He will be disastrous for Britain and Europe, on every level.

Can you explain what you mean by this? If you're referring to a ceasefire and peace talks in Ukraine then yes, that would be disastrous for us......NOT 🙄

Peace talks in Ukraine! Putin is a master tactician. If Harris can push Trumps buttons, Putin will certainly be able to. Ukraine would be screwed and surely noone in their right minds thinks appeasing Putin is a good strategic plan Confused

cantreallyno · 13/09/2024 16:19

timenowplease · 13/09/2024 14:16

I posted a link to a Buck Angel live with Jennifer Sey yesterday. At one point they talk about Harris and how appalling she is. Sey said that even though she's a Democrat and former Californian resident she never voted for Harris because of how useless she is.

Even the Democrat party have no faith in her. She was shoved in as a Hail Mary pass when it became glaringly obvious demented Biden could go on no longer.

They've only managed to spin it so effectively because they have the corrupt mainstream media behind them.

I don't understand how people think that the 'corrupt msm' operate in favour of democrats/socialist or left wing politics. the MSM is overwhelmingly owned by conservative organisation aren't they?

cantreallyno · 13/09/2024 16:22

timenowplease · 13/09/2024 15:54

Again with the stupid alarmist nonsense.

As to English women touting him, for bloody shame! He will be disastrous for Britain and Europe, on every level.

Can you explain what you mean by this? If you're referring to a ceasefire and peace talks in Ukraine then yes, that would be disastrous for us......NOT 🙄

you don't think the stupid alarmist nonsense started in the original statement, that 'Trump is the only hope for the world'?

lifeturnsonadime · 13/09/2024 16:38

CassieMaddox · 13/09/2024 15:51

It is a depressing thread but I'm not sure it's fair to infer posters are male.

I think over time the demographic of the board has changed from strident radical feminists to more "tradwife" type posters with conservative views of gender roles, caused by the freedom to discuss transgender issues.

Each to their own but it can be jarring to debate things that feel like "feminism 101" (such as why men like Trump are dangerous to women).

I wish we could get back to a radical feminist analysis of gender on here Sad

Oh my goodness.

This is where you lose all credibility.

Many of us are professional , traditionally left leaning women.

Im done with this thread., how sneery can you be?

I’m pro abortion any time any place but I still don’t think you should be using KJk endorsing Trump on twitter to attempt to silence GC voices in the UK.

Sneery posts don’t do your cause any favours. It’s so typical of the current far left , they appear to blame others of failures in critical thought yet can’t exercise it themselves.

Dumbo12 · 13/09/2024 16:50

To be fair there has been a fair amount of sneering from those people who appear to support kjk, regardless of what she says.

Murica · 13/09/2024 16:53

cantreallyno · 13/09/2024 16:19

I don't understand how people think that the 'corrupt msm' operate in favour of democrats/socialist or left wing politics. the MSM is overwhelmingly owned by conservative organisation aren't they?

I know some people who went to a protest against transing children. Every local news station called them Far Right protesters. None of press actually spoke to any of the protesters, if they had they would have found out all of them were democrats.

Wenzles · 13/09/2024 16:53

I wish we could get back to a radical feminist analysis of gender on here

Same here, when there was a long thread on FWR defending Nigel Farage after he was 'debanked' by Coutts then I knew this place was too far gone.

Shortshriftandlethal · 13/09/2024 17:13

MiriamMay · 13/09/2024 14:17

As a mother, I understand the deep instincts that can come with pregnancy, and I have also experienced having an abortion.

However, with respect, is it fair to use our personal experiences to dictate how other women should feel about pregnancy and abortion?

And is it right to use our own experiences to control what they can do with their bodies or limit their access to abortion?

I didn’t find my abortion a difficult decision at all and I didn’t experience any negative feelings afterwards. I don’t believe my feeling are less valid because they differ from yours

I'm not dictating anything...I'm sharing my views and experiences. You asked me to expand on my concern over the 'no limit' laws in some US states. I did.

I believe there are quite profound moral questions over very late stage abortions....as I'm sure most people do, which is why every other country has definite legal limits. These limits remain due to a very stable consensus.

I also don't necessarily think that a 'woman's right to choose' always over-rides all other considerations.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 13/09/2024 17:17

Livinginaclock · 11/09/2024 17:27

She's allowed her opinion.
The only person I agree with on everything is me.
KJK gives ordinary women a voice, and I think she's great for it.
Would I vote for Trump? No.
Would I vote for Kamala? No.

🎯

Delphinium20 · 13/09/2024 17:46

I don't think OP has lost any credibility, she's spoken clearly and has good arguments that resonate if one is a feminist and left-leaning.

But, is this the American Revolution 2.0 where we fight off the British oppression led by KJK? No, I don't think she has an army that large.

As an American who can and will vote Harris in large part because I'm a feminist who cares not just about abortion rights but health care (we don't have the NHS) and climate and gun control - all which negatively impact women, it's rather amusing to think KJK thinks she can influence US voters.

While there's a subset of non-US KJK supporters who are clearly her flying monkeys on every thread about her, I'm pretty sure most of her ardent supporters can't vote for Trump if they wanted to.

Frankly, you have more to worry about KJK in the UK as that is where she hurts the GC branch of the feminist movement most. Most people in the U.S. know who Riley Gaines is but have no clue about KJK. (And while Gaines and I disagree about Trump, I admire her professional behavior and strategic focus on getting men out of women's sports).

KJK tried to take on America, but like King George, it didn't happen. But we are open to another Beatles invasion Grin

Murica · 13/09/2024 17:53

She's trying to take over America? Really?

lifeturnsonadime · 13/09/2024 17:56

It’s good to see that someone who can actually vote in the US has the ability to also believe that whilst Gaines is. Republican she is doing good things for women’s sport @Delphinium20 .

Because sometimes (well often on these threads) nuance is totally lost.

We are not, nor is it desirable for us to be, a hive mind.

TinselAngel · 13/09/2024 18:15

It is a depressing thread but I'm not sure it's fair to infer posters are male.

I think over time the demographic of the board has changed from strident radical feminists to more "tradwife" type posters with conservative views of gender roles, caused by the freedom to discuss transgender issues.

Each to their own but it can be jarring to debate things that feel like "feminism 101" (such as why men like Trump are dangerous to women).

I wish we could get back to a radical feminist analysis of gender on here

"Oh Edmund! Can it be true? That I hold here, in my mortal hand, a nugget of purest goad?"

cantreallyno · 13/09/2024 18:25

Murica · 13/09/2024 16:53

I know some people who went to a protest against transing children. Every local news station called them Far Right protesters. None of press actually spoke to any of the protesters, if they had they would have found out all of them were democrats.

wow, which protest? do you have links to the reports, I would be interested to see that?

cantreallyno · 13/09/2024 19:07

thanks, I googled the protest and it is interesting to see that it was characterised as a right wing protest in all of the reports that I read. which doesn't really happen in the UK.

VUT, it does seem to have been promoted, if not organised by well known right wing protestors. and also the hospital and staff were receiving repeated bomb threats which lead to 3 evacuations in one week! that does seem extremist or 'far' something

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2024 19:23

Snort @TinselAngel

Murica · 13/09/2024 19:46

cantreallyno · 13/09/2024 19:07

thanks, I googled the protest and it is interesting to see that it was characterised as a right wing protest in all of the reports that I read. which doesn't really happen in the UK.

VUT, it does seem to have been promoted, if not organised by well known right wing protestors. and also the hospital and staff were receiving repeated bomb threats which lead to 3 evacuations in one week! that does seem extremist or 'far' something

Billboard Chris organized it and condemned the bomb threat. The hospital was not evacuated and the police didn't let anyone in or out for about an hour. I don't know if Chris would call himself right wing. He's Canadian anyway. Those who joined him were definitely not. Even if they were, I agree with them that transing children is child abuse.

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