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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Premiere of Trans Widows Film on Friday 30th Aug

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TinselAngel · 26/08/2024 18:43

Vaishnavi Sundar's long awaited documentary that was three years in the making, is having a worldwide premiere on the 30th of August, 7pm UK time.

Behind The Looking Glass is a feature-length film about the lives of women whose partners have/want to medically transition.

This is the link for the premiere:

Premiere of Trans Widows Film on Friday 30th Aug
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Callmejudith · 02/09/2024 14:57

I had to watch this in bursts it was making me so so angry. What a wonderful and moving piece. Thank you to everyone involved.

happydappy2 · 02/09/2024 21:09

what struck me was how the legal system is set against Mothers, trying to protect their children from an abusive male parent (with an obvious sexual fetish.) This is awful. This is a global problem affecting women of all faiths...Why do our politicians listen to AGPs but not women?

Livinginaclock · 02/09/2024 22:23

It's awful isn't it.
Men "win', every time.

RedToothBrush · 03/09/2024 09:37

happydappy2 · 02/09/2024 21:09

what struck me was how the legal system is set against Mothers, trying to protect their children from an abusive male parent (with an obvious sexual fetish.) This is awful. This is a global problem affecting women of all faiths...Why do our politicians listen to AGPs but not women?

Well given no one seems to know and understand coercive control and there is a significant lack of training to identify it across family courts, legal courts, social workers, the police, politicians and MNHQ it's hardly the biggest surprise in the world.

No one cares about women. That's your bottom line. Women are second class service humans.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/09/2024 09:38

Completely agree, Red.

TinselAngel · 03/09/2024 13:19

Really pleased to see that Critic article about the film

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Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 04/09/2024 00:41

The critic article is good. The women seen in the film are the strongest women, who have reached a point of being able to be filmed / recorded and to speak out against what must seem almost overwhelming odds (a captured media, political class, institutions, universities).

I wonder how many others there are out there in the same situation who have experienced too much trauma and who simply do not have the resilience - currently - to speak up. I've been thinking a lot about the unseen others since I saw the film. For the male bodied transitioners (trying to not to get deleted here) that are prominent in the media we may suspect there are very unhappy and abused women and children in their lives. Of course we're not allowed to think about or talk about that (even when it's bloody obvious if they're filmed with miserable looking family members).

I dislike the narrative - called out in the critic article - that specifically women who've suffered abuse are somehow made stronger by it. This may be true for some but definitely isn't true for others and it almost implies a 'reframe your trauma' type idea of abuse being ultimately a good thing, which obviously it just never is. Abuse is always bad, and the abuser is always bad for abusing women and children, no matter what other crap he's had to deal with in his life.

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 04/09/2024 09:24

Smith is consistently a thoughtful writer who expresses ideas in such a well-crafted, readable way.

To hear these women speak is more powerful than to be told that domestic abuse survivors are viewed as guiding lights. They are not, nor should they have to be. What they need and deserve is something far more modest: to matter just as much as everyone else — even those [abusers] whom it is easier to pity because it costs you nothing at all.

TinselAngel · 04/09/2024 13:19

Gosh!

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StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 04/09/2024 13:49

That's a good capsule summary of the voices in the film, Tinsel.

Archive version for anyone who struggles with DM log-ins and their bandwidth: https://archive.is/eZHQs

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 04/09/2024 14:44

Hopefully the DM article will result in many, many more people seeing the film. I like how they used stills from the film throughout the article.

Fenlandia · 04/09/2024 16:19

Apart from the odd weird comment, the comments are worth a read. For most people this will be the first they've ever heard about this. I remember how jaw-dropping the threads on here were when I first stumbled on them a few years ago.

ArabellaScott · 04/09/2024 16:35

74k views.

TinselAngel · 04/09/2024 20:21

x.com/mailonline/status/1831266257766670502?s=46&t=PSGltfjrMyZmBtYq2-AVIQ

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Szygy · 05/09/2024 10:39

I watched it last week. It was hard and shocking and often left me feeling as though I’d been punched in the gut, but it was a compelling watch.

Thank you for being so brave, @TinselAngel, and thank you to Vaishnavi for making it.

I then, coincidentally, saw something Jonny Bell had posted on X - part of a film following the ‘journey' of a man whose poor wife was clearly in pieces but struggling to be positive and brave and all that other stuff she’d so obviously been gaslighted into believing. I wanted to scoop her up and get her away, but she didn’t look ready to understand what had happened to her. I really hope she does soon, and that maybe she can see the film some day and piece it all together.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/09/2024 10:59

Some good comments on the Mail article @TinselAngel - more reasonable and empathetic than I might have expected.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 05/09/2024 16:46

I'm happy to read articles, but I don't normally watch stuff about this. If I'm watching TV I want it to be escapism, not about this mess

But I watched this today in one long greedy gulp. it's ever so good, and ever so eye opening, and I thought I'd seen it all. the internet footage of men acting out their fetishes is so educational.

very, very well done Tinsel

TinselAngel · 05/09/2024 17:04

We're hoping to get to 100,000 views by the weekend.

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ArabellaScott · 05/09/2024 17:13

I'm looking forward to settling down to watch it in one go soon to give it the attention it deserves.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/09/2024 17:51

Same here, I haven't had a chance to watch it yet.

334bu · 05/09/2024 17:59

Thank you for bringing this to my attention.