‘Demure and mindful’ - oh great.

[LunaNorth]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm23zye08j4o

So this trend. I’m bridling at the ‘demure and mindful’ bullshit being promoted by someone who is performing femininity.

Demure and mindful women seldom make history. Here we go again, being sent back into our boxes by men.

Also, I suspect the mindful part means mindful of their behaviour, attitudes, decibel level and of course all the men in their lives.

Not meditative.

Maybe also "mindful eating", given the cake example a pp posted?

That’s it.

Why is this news?

Because ✨trans✨

Made enough money to pay for ‘transition’ , though. So that’s a win.

Although hasn’t she already ‘transitioned’ in the eyes of the state broadcaster and indeed, all right , sorry, correct thinking people?

A win for the people profiting from lifelong medical intervention.

This.

Like Mumsnet then lol

No, you are.

Firstly, males with trans identities are only ever male people. They are not women.

And this is not about make up.

But please. Do keep posting because the more you do, the more those reading will see the repeated arguments that you seem to not be able to discuss with any rationality.

The issue is not that this male person is wearing make up. I don’t know many people in the world who think make up is a ‘female’ thing since the 80s.

The issue is the misogyny that comes from declaring that someone is female when they are male, and celebrating them supposedly flouting sexist stereotypes while actually using those stereotypes to be a ‘female flouting stereotypes’. Which is just continuing the misogyny of those same sexist stereotypes that female people have had to deal with for a millennia.

Oh come on. This is a really bigoted thread. It's a joke, my dds say it. The person who said it first is trans, so what?

Woah, whole boatload of projection here. Who’s said the things you’ve claimed? Quote their posts so we can see the evidence you claim is there.

I’ve been reading the whole thread getting increasingly mystified as to why you’re engaging in a discussion while not reading, comprehending or responding to the points posters are making. You set off from the start with a load of dramatic hyperbole and have continually posted at emotional tangents since, while remaining silent when posters seek to engage you and get you to think critically instead of just declaiming an already set view.

Why the silence from you in respect of the queries about if you would support Rachel Dolezal doing similar to the person in the BBC article on race? It comes across as you not wishing to question your own beliefs.

Your posting smacks of an already -set cognitive bias that you are desperately seeking to uphold by acting in denial of any evidence to the contrary. Quite why you operate this way is not clear, but you’d do well to reflect on it, as this style of thinking won’t serve you well in life.

Its a joke ffs.

I dunno, you know. It’s serving the ideologists really well so far. Must be exhausting, though.

So a person from outside an opressed class of people can make jokes and be celebrated for fighting the stereotypes of that oppression class, while being seen as part of the oppressed class of people that they are not.

Can you name what other opressed class of people you would find this acceptable for? Race? Would you accept it for race?

Aaaaand here comes the disingenuous denial. So demure!

Yes, it's a joke. It's funny. I feel sorry for you lot sometimes.

Also - it's not about race.

There’s a bit of gaslighting going on this here thread, isn’t there?

’You said this, but you meant this.’

No I didn’t.

Favourite bob monhouse joke !

I told people I wanted to be a comedian and they laughed at me. Well they're not laughing anymore.

"She also reminds us that when dressing for the office, her shirt "only has a little chi-chi out, not my cho-cho", adding: "You should never "come to work with a green cut crease".

She seems to be talking an entirely different language, couldn't follow her advice if I wanted to because I don't understand it.

Aw, thanks. Does your pity extend to listening to
‘our lot’s’ concerns, or is it the sort of ‘feeling sorry’ that really means ‘looking at with contempt’?

Explain the joke then. Explain how funny it is.

RanchRat · Today 11:47
Its a joke ffs.

Explain it then.

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Sorry everyone else for repeating myself. I would like to join in with the laughter these posters seem to be having.

Someone posts to say - oh come on, it's a joke.

Response "Why the silence from you in respect of the queries about if you would support Rachel Dolezal doing similar to the person in the BBC article on race? It comes across as you not wishing to question your own beliefs"

Absolute laughable overreaction!

Well, you don't get it, clearly. But do carry on ranting because some people have a sense of humour!