Olympic Boxer names J K Rowling in lawsuit for cyberbullying

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https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/jk-rowling-elon-musk-imane-khelif-lawsuit-1236105185/

J.K. Rowling and Elon Musk have both been named in a criminal complaint filed to French authorities over alleged “acts of aggravated cyber harassment” against Algerian boxer and newl crowned Olympic champion Imane Khelif.

Nabil Boudi, the Paris-based attorney of Khelif, confirmed to Variety that both figures were mentioned in the body of the complaint, posted to the anti-online hatred center of the Paris public prosecutor’s office on Friday.

The lawsuit was filed against X, which under French law means that it was filed against unknown persons. That “ensure[s] that the ‘prosecution has all the latitude to be able to investigate against all people,” including those who may have written hateful messages under pseudonyms, said Boudi. The complaint nevertheless mentions famously controversial figures

Totally agree with this! It's not Imane's fault if she is playing within the allowed rules. Why should she be responsible for changing it?

(And calling Imane 'he' is just plain rude. Avoid the pronoun if you want but there's no need.)

I suggest you read the numerous threads on MN about this very issue.

I think that by now it is rather too late to keep trying that line. But good on you for keeping on trying though. A true believer. Keep the faith.

She was let down by the Australian Olympic selectors.

Well I'm hearing noises that her husband was one of the judges on the selection panel. The pool of people to choose from was only a group of about 25 people who were members of the Australian Breaking Association, an organisation set up by Raygun and her husband which came under the auspices of the Australian Ballroom Dancing Association which is what both their backgrounds is in. To be honest I find it hard to have sympathy with someone so lacking in self awareness as to her own lack of talent putting herself forward to perform that dogs dinner of a routine on the global stage. It is no different to some teenager singing into her hairbrush in her bedroom thinking she can give Taylor Swift a run for her money.

Men, public or otherwise, get just as much abuse. It's just they deal with it in a. different way and react to it differently.

How spectacularly sexist of you.
As if feminism is a female only space. Preposterous.

Fortunately some incredibly brave women have stood up for biological reality. Who funds this action? Who stands to gain?

JKR for the win.

So you believe that a male person who makes a fully informed decision to compete against female people when they know they have competitive advantage but rules allow them to do so anyway is without fault?

Tell us, what would you personally do knowing it was directly dangerous to others but the poorly formed regulations allowed you to do it? And if you got caught, and the public backlash was clearly calling out your actions, do you think that this would be an adequate defence?

Just because you can, doesn’t absolve you of your responsibility to do what you know is wrong.

And sorry, the saddest personal history doesn’t change this at all.

I wonder if JKR will set up a crowdfunder?

Looking forward to Baz Luhrman producing Strictly Breakdancing.

I agree that men deal with abuse differently. It is egreous nonsense to say they get the same amount of abuse. Look at the pushback Prof Robert Winston and Ricky Gervais get.

Yes. I have been reading about this too.

The Australian breakdancer gets little sympathy from me - more so because they’re revelling in the attention. Anyway.

Imane Khelif complaining about how unfair other people are being? Hilarious. I doubt this court case will cost them anything though - they’re being propped up by someone.

I've seen a lot of GC twitter posts regarding Imane’s looks which I’ve not approved of. As soon as the debate becomes who can ‘pass’ , the argument is redundant. I agree that Lin Yu-Tin seems to have missed a lot of this ire, but I think that was in part because Khelif’s match was first.

Men probably get less rape threats, they get plenty of other threats and abuse in different ways, don't think it's true to say they get less
Certain Ricky Gervais gets loads on his timeline, don't need to look to hard to find em, just different

well - he - does not think he is a he - because he was brought up as a she and did all the she things in their lives. That it turns out they have a XY but no penis, came as a shock to everyone by all accounts. It's not an open and shut case, it's always grey.

No they should not be competing. But surely you can see that it's not B&W?

If by different you mean men get less volume, less violent and less hateful abuse. Then yes I agree it is ‘just different’.

Here are all of JKR's tweets that relate to Khelif, in chronological order:

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1818289917421629841

What will it take to end this insanity? A female boxer left with life-altering injuries? A female boxer killed? https://t.co/2OGWUQYtU5

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https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1818982581423010155

Watch this (whole thread), then explain why you’re OK with a man beating a woman in public for your entertainment. This isn’t sport. From the bullying cheat in red all the way up to the organisers who allowed this to happen, this is men revelling in their power over women. https://x.com/fairplaywomen/status/1818959981527417058

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https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1818983414030082254

My reaction too.

[In reply to "I cried watching this. They’ve legitimised men beating the sh*t out of women. Having been at the receiving end of a man’s fists, it took me right back there. That poor woman, all her life working & training for this. Absolutely disgraceful, repulsive & sickening"]

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https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1818993613113634982

A young female boxer has just had everything she’s worked and trained for snatched away because you allowed a male to get in the ring with her. You’re a disgrace, your ‘safeguarding’ is a joke and #Paris24 will be forever tarnished by the brutal injustice done to Carini. https://x.com/iocmedia/status/1818939117566058864

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https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1819007216214573268

Could any picture sum up our new men’s rights movement better? The smirk of a male who’s knows he’s protected by a misogynist sporting establishment enjoying the distress of a woman he’s just punched in the head, and whose life’s ambition he’s just shattered. #Paris2024

[With a photo of Khelif in the ring with Carini soon after their match finished.]

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https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1819041439658975351

‘Someone with a DSD cannot help the way they were born but they can choose not to cheat; they can choose not to take medals from women; they can choose not to cause injury.’ ✍️@suzanne_moore https://t.co/p6Qdb4lXcx

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https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1819317506361663994

Because we currently live in a world where too many institutions, even those whose decisions may put women at risk of injury or death, are too cowardly to challenge the ludicrous proposition that acknowledging the reality of biological sex is inherently bigoted.

[In reply to "Why are we even questioning this? 🤔🤔🤔"]

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https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1819335159591604560

The idea that those objecting to a male punching a female in the name of sport are objecting because they believe Khelif to be ‘trans’ is a joke. We object because we saw a male punching a female. https://x.com/YourAnonNews/status/1819099894541631914

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https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1819706186456862786

'[The IOC] discriminates against female athletes... it abolished a simple test that would have stopped Paris being remembered for televising male violence. Bring back the cheek swab: for female boxers the bad old days are now.' ✍️@VictoriaPeckham https://t.co/HJQxdFXCME

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https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1819810036706853365

‘Media outlets might relish the surge of clicks they gain by distorting biological realities…However, these lies have serious consequences. It is not an exaggeration to fear that such distortions may soon get someone killed.’ ✍️⁦@SwipeWright https://t.co/VYDXYGBecj

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https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1821149959770476943

Commentators pretending critics of the IOC’s reliance on documents rather than sex testing think Khelif is trans are straw-manning. I don’t claim Khelif is trans. My objection, and that of many others, is to male violence against women becoming an Olympic sport. https://x.com/MForstater/status/1820860830076059764

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https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1821152763012628800

If you’re cheering on women getting punched by men you should probably fix your own shame issues before trying to lecture others.

[In reply to "You're not backing down, where's your shame ?"]

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https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1821154439085871431

Sadly, we’re seeing proof of that playing out in real time.

[In reply to "There’s a remarkable amount of people inadvertently giving themselves away here.If they genuinely thought Imane was an actual woman, they wouldn’t give a fuck about ‘her’ 🤷‍♀️"]

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https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1821159338141974931

“But not to women”, they meant.#Paris2024 https://x.com/fairplaywomen/status/1821057916666831086

[Quoting ""Be kind" they said. #paris2024"]

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https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1821160211102523842

“With an XY karyotype and high testosterone (from which the presence of testes can be strongly - and I mean strongly - inferred), these athletes have, so far, the male-typical biology that is relevant in sport.” ✍️@FondOfBeetles https://x.com/FondOfBeetles/status/1820830649080570197

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https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1821167422721630473

For the record, bombarding me with pictures of athletic women to ‘teach’ me that women don’t all look like Barbie is like spamming me with pics of differently-shaped potatoes to prove rocks are edible. I can still see the difference and you look frankly bonkers.

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https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1821197040333787555

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[In reply to "Imane Khelif will not sue JK Rowling. Ask me how I know."]

Clearly the poster was saying different, not less - people on the internet are wankers to each other 24/7. Having a penis does not protect you from it.

How long ago did he realise he wasn’t a she though.
Not last week. He knows he’s a man he doesn’t care he punched women in the face so he could cheat his way to a gold medal.

I'm sure J. K. Rowling, and Elon Musk would welcome the chance to air this entire thing in public.

And I bet the IOC don't want their ridiculous policy of 'F on a passport' being broadcast to the world. Plus, how many people will be very reluctant to advertise what a piece of piss it is to actually get an F on a passport? No surgery, no medication, no GRC, nothing.

Also, is there a specific meaning to the word cheat when it comes to sport? Because people keep saying if it's in the rules it's fine. In other words you can't say it's cheating. But cheating also means being unfair. Where does it say if the IOC is complicit in the cheating, then it's not cheating?

In terms of harassment, I'm sure JK and Musk could show a far more disproportionate level of harassment directed at them as a result of Khelif boxing women.

I agree with the previous poster who said all this success has gone to their collective heads. You can bet your life they are being affirmed left right and centre.

Bring it on. Sunlight is never unwelcome in this issue.

But it does. Course it does.

What a nuanced argument. "of course it does".
case closed.

JK is not being sued - this case is not about JK. Read my previous post.

Exactly zero of the men of my acquaintance, including some who are in the public eye, have ever received graphical images detailing how someone is planning to rape them and stab them and exactly where they will cut as they disect the body.
You must have led a very sheltered life if you don't know how bad it gets for women who dare to be in the public eye in a way that transcends the misogynistic limits for roles that women are allowed to occupy.

Do you actually think it is possible for them to release such evidence?

Given two independent labs have said they aren't eligible to compete in female competitions?

I hope the court insists they prove they are "female, without any testicles internal or external" before deciding if people were wrong.

But wouldn't they have to prove what constituted the harassment?