Thread 3: TWO “Female Boxers” Set To Compete At Paris 2024 Were Previously Disqualified From Women’s World Championship For Having “XY Chromosomes”

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When was that? I haven't seen it in any footage and can't find it reported either

I saw a picture on Twitter but wasn't sure what the context was, whether it was recent etc.

Did she?

The IOC has been getting X accounts locked until the footage of Lin Yu Ting punching Esra Yildiz Kahraman in the back of the head is removed.

There was a picture, but can't find it now.

The IOC has been getting X accounts locked until the footage of Lin Yu Ting punching Esra Yildiz Kahraman in the back of the head is removed.

FFS. Appalling.

How the IOC has any credibility left at this point is beyond me

Wait, though, they've finished their daily briefings and finished up with some hilarious bantz about OnlyFans, in which Mark Adams appears to suffer some kind of malfunction.

https://www.youtube.com/live/pO-XlKlpLZg?si=LYuW73c_zc-uKid6&t=1730

From 28 minutes, if that link doesn't take you to the right spot.

I imagine they've a fine reputation for trustworthiness and credibility (if you limit the survey to their own kitchen table when they breakfast alone or the pastry table if they're having a breakfast meeting).

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/XFkcka6Ru8KTmrtR/

@TheKeatingFive and @Ereshkigalangcleg .. at the end of her dance... I can't see where any Irish media have reported it.

Interesting. I wonder did she mean it?

I guess I'd have to see the video. It's a still.

I googled KH dance and it came up on TikTok.

Seeing it didn't help me decide whether she meant it as an XX gesture though.

Wtf it's just a joke to them... talk about disrespect. Felt sorry for that women sat next to him who declined to comment when invited, I'd be fuming if I was in her position. It's like public humiliation. Even at the Olympics all these men can think about is their cocks.

I was just reading the Daley Thompson telegraph article and they mentioned that the Olympic Portrayal guide stated that the phrase 'born male' should not be used as it is dehumanising. If that's the case why are the IOC constantly dehumanising Khelif and Lin by saying they are born female.

Looks like she's a political scientist.

The replies to her on X are quite robust (hearteningly):

It's difficult to understand how a journalist could get so many things wrong. The issues around male people with DSDs in female sport are well known, as is the IOC's refusal to address them. Feminists and sports scientists have been campaigning on this for years.

The IOC accepted Khelif in the boxing competition because it accepts biological males in the female category in boxing (unlike the IBA). Don't you find that disturbing? That inclusion is more important than the safety of female boxers?

Disinformation? Khelif may have been raised a girl but it seems clear that the boxer has a male dsd which androgenised his body at puberty. The IOC has failed to protect the integrity of women's sport. The IOC has not denied the accuracy of the tests, it simply won't engage.

It’s completely one-sided isn’t it? Nobody needs to say “it’s not fair they were born female” because no female ever comes anywhere near to threatening men’s events.

Wow. That is so grim.

I recall Jennifer Sey of XX-XY reacting to the "don't say biologically male, don't say born male" 'guidelines' with "Fine, then I'll just say 'male.'"

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When you say 'surface level' indicators, what do you mean?

I mean going beyond immediate impressions, not doing a deeper analysis of an image to consider sex differences.

What exactly constitutes an 'immediate impression'!

Because we're all looking at the same things. Photos and clips.

Just because I now know exactly why a man's gait is different to a woman's, and what a Q angle is, doesn't mean I couldn't see them in action perfectly plainly.

I wonder if Kellie's X is purposeful plausible deniability - given it's in the official IOC regs that "political protest" isn't allowed?

I snipped the video but it's definitely not clear whether she's hugging herself or making an X

I think this is the original video of Kellie's gesture on Twix:
https://x.com/SageListener/status/1821509716494942253

Hilarious lads with their hilarious repartee about young women prostituting themselves.

Wtf it's just a joke to them... talk about disrespect. Felt sorry for that women sat next to him who declined to comment when invited, I'd be fuming if I was in her position. It's like public humiliation. Even at the Olympics all these men can think about is their cocks.

Fucking creeps.

I think this is the original video of Kellie's gesture on Twix:

That's not Kellie's video, that's Esra Yildiz Kahraman. She lost to Lin Yu Ting, another one of the XY boxers, last night.

Have you been looking at my browser?

Wtf! What a creep. I bet there wouldn't be many straight blokes troubling IK's only fans, if he had one. Although what do I know? Male sexuality can be very niche.