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Thread 3: TWO “Female Boxers” Set To Compete At Paris 2024 Were Previously Disqualified From Women’s World Championship For Having “XY Chromosomes”

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/08/2024 11:25

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annejumps · 07/08/2024 13:39

Plasmodesmata · 07/08/2024 11:22

I read somewhere that boxing's place in 2028 Olympics is not yet confirmed, due to all the regulatory chaos. So it might not be a problem at the next Olympics, if there is no boxing to enter.

Unfortunate for the women who might have wanted to box in the Olympics. Vibes of "The whole class is being punished."

SabrinaThwaite · 07/08/2024 13:40

NIyonsaba won $42,000 in 2018 too.

So that’s $94,000 that should have gone to female athletes that year.

TheKeatingFive · 07/08/2024 13:46

annejumps · 07/08/2024 13:39

Unfortunate for the women who might have wanted to box in the Olympics. Vibes of "The whole class is being punished."

Quite

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 07/08/2024 13:49

It’s great to have Nicola Adams speaking up, as a black, gender non conforming gay woman boxer.

Beowulfa · 07/08/2024 14:06

Always thought it was a shame that C19 meant Nicola didn't progress further in Strictly (I'm aware Strictly stinks quite a bit now too).

TWETMIRF · 07/08/2024 14:17

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 07/08/2024 13:49

It’s great to have Nicola Adams speaking up, as a black, gender non conforming gay woman boxer.

The wrong type of minority for the gender crew unfortunately.

Zeugma · 07/08/2024 14:20

Shortshriftandlethal · 07/08/2024 12:36

I read a piece this morning ( BBC) which suggested that audiences actually enjoyed mixed sex events. In reference to a walking race today in which the teams are apparently mixed.

I posted about this on one of the other threads.

The thing is that the mixed-sex (not 'gender', as of course they keep calling it!) walking marathon doesn’t actually pit men directly against women. They walk separate legs, alternating male/female/male/female. So it’s not men going head-to-head with women. It’s a field of all men walking the first leg, swapping to all women, then so on till the end.

It seems to me this is OK and an example of where they can legitimately have a fair balance. But it doesn’t explain the utter batshittery of the boxing, and the media is deliberately fudging the difference by not pointing out what’s REALLY going on with Khelif and Lin.

Bobblebottle · 07/08/2024 14:22

Having watched clips of the boxing semi-final I am not completely convinced I wasn't watching two males compete to be honest. I am questioning the Thai boxer Janjaem Suwannapheng. Some photos on their instagram are a bit jarring to me. I could absolutely be mistaken and don't mean to cause offence. But this blatant corruption and the lie that men can be women in sport is leading me to question everything and I feel that the IOC has shown itself not to be able to be trusted. I'm genuinely confused.

Signalbox · 07/08/2024 14:27

Another female athlete doing the double XX before competing. Hope this catches on.

https://x.com/jeanettedenise/status/1821112040728997963

x.com

https://x.com/jeanettedenise/status/1821112040728997963

misscockerspaniel · 07/08/2024 14:42

Good for her - I, too, hope it catches on. Interesting that it was a Chinese athlete giving the double XX sign, given that Khelif's opponent in the final is Chinese.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/08/2024 14:47

It's so great to see @Signalbox

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StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 07/08/2024 14:55

Signalbox · 07/08/2024 14:27

Another female athlete doing the double XX before competing. Hope this catches on.

https://x.com/jeanettedenise/status/1821112040728997963

You'd swear it's hostages trying to give signals that they want to be delivered from this Kafka-esque situation in which they're trapped.

ArabellaScott · 07/08/2024 14:57
Hunger Games Student GIF

XX

Keenovay · 07/08/2024 14:58

Never mind the cervixes, I raise you two fallopian tubes. People just making stuff up now.

Thread 3: TWO “Female Boxers” Set To Compete At Paris 2024 Were Previously Disqualified From Women’s World Championship For Having “XY Chromosomes”
jammypancakes · 07/08/2024 15:00

Bobblebottle · 07/08/2024 14:22

Having watched clips of the boxing semi-final I am not completely convinced I wasn't watching two males compete to be honest. I am questioning the Thai boxer Janjaem Suwannapheng. Some photos on their instagram are a bit jarring to me. I could absolutely be mistaken and don't mean to cause offence. But this blatant corruption and the lie that men can be women in sport is leading me to question everything and I feel that the IOC has shown itself not to be able to be trusted. I'm genuinely confused.

Just looked up some pics and thinking you might be right.. What a disgusting situation where we're not even sure we're watching women in women's sports. Where the officials refused to test all the athletes. Where people will turn off women's sports because they want to see women.

Women are under represented in their own class.

ArabellaScott · 07/08/2024 15:00

Keenovay · 07/08/2024 14:58

Never mind the cervixes, I raise you two fallopian tubes. People just making stuff up now.

They've seen photos of this boxer's Fallopian tubes?!

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 07/08/2024 15:01

Keenovay · 07/08/2024 14:58

Never mind the cervixes, I raise you two fallopian tubes. People just making stuff up now.

That’s a detailed photo.

jammypancakes · 07/08/2024 15:01

ArabellaScott · 07/08/2024 14:57

XX

XX!

annejumps · 07/08/2024 15:02

jammypancakes · 07/08/2024 15:00

Just looked up some pics and thinking you might be right.. What a disgusting situation where we're not even sure we're watching women in women's sports. Where the officials refused to test all the athletes. Where people will turn off women's sports because they want to see women.

Women are under represented in their own class.

Wow, yeah. I hadn't looked at photos of the Thai boxer until now.

Floisme · 07/08/2024 15:05

Doesn't everyone have a selfie of their fallopian tubes?

WickedSerious · 07/08/2024 15:06

Keenovay · 07/08/2024 14:58

Never mind the cervixes, I raise you two fallopian tubes. People just making stuff up now.

Yeah,makes sense.

You can see my fallopian tubes quite clearly in several of my school photos.

True story.

TWETMIRF · 07/08/2024 15:10

I always tell my DDs not to worry about brushing their hair for school photos. It makes no difference to me if they look like they've been dragged through a hedge backwards as long as their fallopian tubes are looking pretty

OuterSpaceCadet · 07/08/2024 15:15

Bobblebottle · 07/08/2024 14:22

Having watched clips of the boxing semi-final I am not completely convinced I wasn't watching two males compete to be honest. I am questioning the Thai boxer Janjaem Suwannapheng. Some photos on their instagram are a bit jarring to me. I could absolutely be mistaken and don't mean to cause offence. But this blatant corruption and the lie that men can be women in sport is leading me to question everything and I feel that the IOC has shown itself not to be able to be trusted. I'm genuinely confused.

Have Thai officials made any fuss about their boxer's opponent?

WickedSerious · 07/08/2024 15:18

TWETMIRF · 07/08/2024 15:10

I always tell my DDs not to worry about brushing their hair for school photos. It makes no difference to me if they look like they've been dragged through a hedge backwards as long as their fallopian tubes are looking pretty

I used to spit on a hanky and give my cervix a quick polish too.

A gal can't be too careful.

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 07/08/2024 15:18

I was surprised by the Thai boxer- I initially thought that Imane seemed not to be wearing any kind of sports bra, and wanted to compare with the Thai boxer. Who seemed equally without need, which mollified me 🤣.

You know how bulky you feel in a sports bra? Sort of confined and bound? Imane didn’t seem to have that thick bulky feeling layer beneath the vest, just a much lighter one.

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