Guardian article- disgusting euphemism of the systematic rape of 1400 children

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I read this article last night and I am livid. She discusses the riots in Rotherham. She mentions ‘a town with past tensions’. She makes no mention of the systematic and paedophilic rape of 1400 children.

classic guardian, don’t talk about it and don’t report it if it doesn’t fit the narrative.

I can’t wait for this women hating, gay people hating, MRM loving rag to bankrupt.

here’s the article below. Pls consider writing into complain. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/05/a-dark-day-anger-in-rotherham-after-riot-at-hotel-housing-asylum-seekers

What happened in Rotherham was absolutely disgusting. The police and the council handled it pathetically and they should be brought to justice for their role in it.

However, that does not justify the holiday inn being set on fire or the community being subject to violence.

Neither is right, and two wrongs don't make a right.

Neither is refusing to name the treatment of those girls because ‘it might be used to justify setting a holiday inn on fire’.

I am appalled that posters don’t see this is simple an extension of the attitudes that allowed these crimes to be brushed aside putting hundreds more girls at risk.

I am so angry that posters on FWR support not upsetting men above acknowledging the rape of girls.

We had a rally in favour of immigration ( legal and undocumented) in Oxford this weekend. Carfax full of the righteous with the pink and yellow signs. I suppose no one thought about the Oxford grooming gang scandal, or if they did, they didn’t care , as men are so much more socially significant than girls.

BTW, who is supplying the pink and yellow signs? Because there are thousands of them and they are at every rally and ‘counter- demonstration.’

I think you misunderstand. I read the original post from @Ereshkigalangcleg as saying that the Graun sweeping it under the carpet was the problem.

I have said for years that the way we handle immigration and all its ramifications was going to bite the country on the bum eventually. I didn't see it happening like this, though.

They were raped. Repeatedly.

What good does violence and racism do? It doesn't take that away. It doesn't change it. All it does it create a society where male violence is justified time and time again.

The Guard used to be my paper of choice too; have given up on it now due to their shitty reporting on female issues. As for the 1400 girls - I can't even begin to imagine the impact of this on the girls, their families and the wider community. Absolutely they're going to feel anger and even more so when the authorities are not held to account.

And by not acknowledging this, because people in power decided ”What good does violence and racism do? It doesn't take that away. It doesn't change it. All it does it create a society where male violence is justified time and time again.” it allowed those rapes to continue and for hundreds more girls were subject to rape. This argument is no different to the behaviour of the police, social work etc who ignored it for fear of upsetting men. If men are violent then deal with it. Arrest them.

@KielderWater do you think it's okay for them to have set fire to a holiday inn?

The police cover up was grotesque. As I have said, I hope the police and authorities are brought to justice.

It does not, in any way excuse the scenes we have been seeing recently.

What you are saying though is ‘it is ok to to dismiss the appalling abuse these girls suffered as the alternative would to have to commit significant police and community resources to dealing with the fallout’. Of course it is not ok to set fire to holiday inns but you put resources in place to stop that happening. If over 1400 girls getting raped is not enough to justify the resources needed to deal with community tensions then exactly how many girls suffering would be? Or do only men count?

No, I have not said that. Ever.

I have said that the actions of the police sre disgusting, and so are the actions of the men who set that holiday inn on fire.

Nowhere did I say it should be covered up.

But you are saying we shouldn’t talk about the abuse because men might set fire to things.

No, I'm not, are you unable to read?

I'm saying that the police who covered it up in the first place are to blame for this entire situation, the tories who haven't provided people with a sense of community are to blame, the people that did the grooming are to blame.

However I do not, and will not, believe that setting fire to things is a legitimate way to express your anger.

She hasn’t said that at all. Go back and read her posts calmly.

A reminder of what this thread is about:

”I read this article last night and I am livid. She discusses the riots in Rotherham. She mentions ‘a town with past tensions’. She makes no mention of the systematic and paedophilic rape of 1400 children.

classic guardian, don’t talk about it and don’t report it if it doesn’t fit the narrative.”

Poster here are justifying referring to the systematic and paedophilic rape of 1400 children as ‘past tensions’ because men might get violent.

@KielderWater but I'm not, and you've latched onto my posts.

Exactly this. They were still dismissing Rotherham as a racial smear campaign weeks before the offical report came out and were absolutely silent on the Cologne attacks until it became such a big story everywhere else they had to mention it. They are absolutely morally bankrupt when it comes to anything that challenges the approved narrative.

Agreed.

What paper/papers are recommended?

Exactly this. They were still dismissing Rotherham as a racial smear campaign weeks before the offical report came out and were absolutely silent on the Cologne attacks until it became such a big story everywhere else they had to mention it. They are absolutely morally bankrupt when it comes to anything that challenges the approved narrative.

They also lied blatantly about the figures then only corrected themselves in a BTL comment, where hardly anyone would see it.

The elephant in the room is that not all migrants are of equal merit. Plenty of migrant groups from around the globe within a generation or two have successfully improved their lot compared to what their parents/grand parents had when they arrived. Crucially they have managed to retain their cultural identity while also establishing themselves in the professional middle classes. Other groups have carried significant cultural baggage that that prevents them from successfully integrating or progressing economically and have as a result largely remained at the bottom of the proverbial pile. The Guardian absolutely loathed to acknowledge this to the point of collective dissonance.

This attitude is exactly why more than 1400 girls were raped - placing concern for ‘community tensions’ above the lives of over 1400 girls.

i am shocked and horrified to see such rape apology here.

I don't believe rioting is justified, ever. I also don't believe most of the rioters last weekend were primarily motivated by concern for girls, however I do think it fed into it and local feelings about the whole situation are understandably still high.

I don't think the proven cover up of the grooming gangs by media and authorities over many years was justified either, and I have argued for this, and basically got smeared as a far right sympathiser by disruptive posters, on other threads.

So I can't win here. I'm neither suggesting that the Rotherham grooming gangs shouldn't be taken seriously or that rioting is ever acceptable.

I'm certainly not a rape apologist. Advance search my other posts on this topic.

I think you misunderstand. I read the original post from @Ereshkigalangcleg as saying that the Graun sweeping it under the carpet was the problem.

Yes, thank you. I stopped reading the Guardian for two reasons, its coverage of trans issues and banning of comments, even on so called "Comment is Free" articles, and the straw the broke the camels back was their "reporting" of the Cologne mass sexual assaults on NYE 2015.

I do occasionally read an article there, and read the recipes etc, but it hasn't been my paper of choice (and I used to buy a paper copy on Saturday and Sunday, did this since my late teens) for nearly a decade.

The issue with the rioters is that while past events may act as triggers, their anger stems mainly from a perspective of ‘they raped OUR women and girls.’ If these acts occurred solely within the Muslim community, would they react similarly? Racism and misogyny are closely linked. These rioters are far from being our defenders; they are regressive in their views. Unfortunately, some problematic elements within the Muslim community exploit Western sympathies by playing the Islamophobia card, even mocking it, as noted in the BBC article. People are more concerned about being labeled racist than about protecting women and girls. This hasn't changed.