Help me present evidence to my son

[AlbertaWildRose]

My DS is 18 and heavy into the TWAW belief. He thinks JK Rowling is a despicable human being for her position and thinks that women should have no problem with all of this, and it's all just "scare-mongering" to say otherwise. Whenever I try to talk to him about this I end up getting too emotional to be rational. I really want to present him with evidence that this movement is not good for women - please help direct me to some good resources. Thank you.

Interesting question!

Read her X it’s disgusting

'He' - he has XY chromosomes and is therefore a man. I agree the IOC is at fault here - the IOC has for many years been allowing male DSD sufferers who ID as women, to compete in female events e.g. Caster Semenya, the father of a child.

So no then.

Specifics?

That's not an example, is it?

Can you give one please? Just one will do.

That's not an example, is it?

Can you give one please? Just one will do.

There’s a million in it for you if you can!

Sorry but one just has to look at her vile misgendering and abusive comments on X and elsewhere about individuals she calls misogynistic and perverted as well as being fantasising men even trans women with gender reassignment surgery and years of having changed birth certificates and transitioning peacefully despite the pain and long journey to be themselves.

These comments are vile. Now it leads to a permissive hatred manifesting in hundreds of percentage points increase in violence and hate crimes but that is met with glee by many on here that is clear.

Don’t be so silly

Can you read her X and the vile supporting comments promoting hate even violence in her X

Show us link then.

like I say, someone’s offering lots of cash for proof so there’s incentive for you!

MoveToParis · Today 02:45
I would show contemptuous anger.
“What an embarrassment you are, pretending you think a man can be a woman on his own say so. No one believes it- not even you. All you’re doing is showing yourself up as an idiot to your friends, and relatives.”
”It’s so sad that you have to be reminded, but women are allowed to say No to men, even if those men feel sad or angry, and even if you feel anger at women saying no. The answer is No, so get back in your box, and STFU.”
”How dare you presume to lecture me with this complete nonsense. You educate yourself and don’t raise this topic again unless it’s to give the groveling apology you don’t yet realize you “

Bloody awful advice/approach.
Do you have an 18 year old son?

This line of questioning is GRIM. Women aren't defined by whether or not men would date or fuck them. There's a million better ways to argue for women's sex based rights and defend being GC without sinking to the lowest possible bar of being desired by a straight man.

Please give a specific example of one of these vile comments.

So sorry for your DD meeting only men who want to exploit her - I mean male 'lesbians'.

Do you know how to copy and paste links?

You don't have an issue, I suspect, because it doesn't affect you as a TWAW.

https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/07/03/jk-rowling-india-willoughby/

don’t pretend this isn’t anti trans hatred and a belief that trans women are not women

No, but the poster @MoveToParis set out the way to deal with OP's son, listing the tactics used by TRAs.

Women as a category are desired by straight men. A straight man is a man who is exclusively attracted to women. Not all women, no, but women, yes.

If you are attracted to women as a category, but not trans women as a category, what is it about trans women that means you wouldn't consider dating one?

It's a valid question.

If you are sexually attracted to women then there will be some women that you find attractive and would be interested in dating. If you are sexually attracted to women and you believe trans women are women then logically you should find some trans women attractive and be interested in dating them. If that's not the case, it does rather undermine your position that they are women.

Transwomen are not women they are men.

Come on you know this.

I think pp were hoping for a direct quote from JKR rather than a link to an article from the fucking Pink News.

Presumably, you're aware that India Willoughby has been trolling JKR on Twitter for years.

ive already said this! i support single sex spaces, but i dont think that means there cant also be single gender spaces as well. I think ive said this about 3 times, im not sure what else to say? i think women should have spaces that are single sex, especially in the context of refuges, but i dont believe ALL women want to exclude trans women, so i dont see the issue with having both kinds of spaces available?
am i a monster??