Help me present evidence to my son

[AlbertaWildRose]

My DS is 18 and heavy into the TWAW belief. He thinks JK Rowling is a despicable human being for her position and thinks that women should have no problem with all of this, and it's all just "scare-mongering" to say otherwise. Whenever I try to talk to him about this I end up getting too emotional to be rational. I really want to present him with evidence that this movement is not good for women - please help direct me to some good resources. Thank you.

Ah the MRA 'malicious rape claims' allegation. Haven't seen that for a while

She does not identify as a man.

they kept saying if she was a woman they would hit her back but because she’s a man she wouldn’t dare and they filmed her getting a beating

that should please the half dozen haters attacking me for supporting her in here today in dozens of messages

i only see hate violence and misogyny from these men women

Schrodinger's transwoman: obviously male on the streets, indistinguishable from other women in the ladies

If your friend was attacked for being trans then that is real transphobia and I hope the police were called. Women saying that tw are male is not transphobia, just fact.

Well yes it has to be genuine and it’s hard to tell sometimes as there are convincing TVs

And very obvious in the men's, to the point where their lives are in danger.

She does not identify as a man.
Maybe not but you can't force others to identify along with you.

So what are the criteria for being genuine?

I think we can all agree violence is wrong and should be condemned. Society should (as much as it can) have measures in place to keep people safe from harm.

You didn’t say giving evidence

“So do you think a rape survivor should have to call her rapist "she" in court if he says he is a woman?”

the rest of your argument is idiotic just stop

no more from you you silly person

Answered already re GRA revision by new government

@BackToLurk
Schrodinger's transwoman 😆

Why else would she be in court talking about her rapist?

Work out? Like in Nazi Germany working out who was gay or socialist?

Idiotic? Why? This is a real life scenario.

Don’t be silly it undermines you and demeans women and humanity for that matter

Your position appears to be that TWAW, except sometimes when they aren't.

So when are they? And when aren't they?

Your son is full-on TWAW, then ask him if he would date a trans woman, and would he date a man with a beard that identified as a woman?

If he says No, then ask him if he is a genital fetishist and why he is trans-exclusionary.

When they use their male penis to do bad male things?

Some do most don’t from what I personally hear anecdotally from individuals

I was attacked for not being a good friend supporting my friend reporting Assault to the police or even groups gathering data but I was also accused here of lying that it happened and ridiculed so why is it not reported??? Wow the ignorance

rpe and sxual assault are massively unreported too especially in relationships but does that make it wrong or a subject for mumsnet ridicule???

I probably wouldn’t bother at his age and this point in time. I’d simply say “we shall have to agree to disagree” and leave it at that.

I wouldn’t tolerate being lectured by a teenager with no life experience especially a male one. He’s entitled to his opinions but they wouldn’t be welcome to be expressed in my home unless he was open to listening and considering the alternatives. If he’s not then it’s an off the table subject.

I used to believe all sorts of shit when I was 18. Let’s hope he just matures and develops critical thought!

It was reported widely by the police last year.
the unreported incidents are 1000s of times greater though

I suppose this could be useful for @AlbertaWildRose if this comes up with her son. If a transwoman appears in court accused of rape, should the victim be compelled to call the alleged rapist 'she'. Is the defendant a woman? If so, do they cease to be a woman if found guilty?

Impact statement??

fact is you twist everything and the truth the most

Where is the evidence that they will be attacked in the men's loo if they enter it?

The vast majority of men will avert their eyes, possibly having rolled them, and attend to their own business.