Women's rights general conversations - Thread 9

[Kucinghitam]

Continuation of Thread 8.

There is so much excellent information and so many active discussions on FWR that I wondered if it would be useful to have a thread to sort of "cross-fertilise" between them - airing little thoughts or vignettes that wouldn't themselves merit their own thread, to highlight other posts/threads of particular interest or to point to notable developments on fast-moving threads so that casual observers know where to look.

(For example, "the X thread has meandered onto a fascinating discussion of Y" or "Poster P's amazing analysis on thread Z might have relevance to the scenario in thread W" or "Has anybody noticed this recurring theme that keeps coming up??" or even "Random bloke asked me to smile while I was choosing onions in the supermarket, grr"- that sort of thing).

Those Pinter cheese scones are hilarious!

Reminds me of the glorious Tom Gauld.

So of course you all made me make a batch of cheese scones and eat far too many of them with lots and lots of butter.

Heh! Due entirely to the news about the Welsh government giving almost £10,000 to someone researching ‘Decolonising the Welsh Cake’, i bought a packet in M&S yesterday and ate 3, with lashings of butter. Delicious.

Decolonising the Welsh Cake?

Who colonised it? Did they invade one and plant a flag?

Well now I want Welsh cakes. And cheese scones.

M&S Welsh cakes are extremely good.

'Bought' Welsh cakes? Whatever next!

I agree, duc!

Hm, perhaps it’s M&S who colonised them? A quick search suggests they are made in Wrexham, but also that nearly 20 years ago they had a misguided notion of relabelling them as ‘currant drop scones’.

Would raisins work in Welsh cakes? Or sultanas. or dried blueberries or cranberries? We can't buy currents (or grow them or import them) here in Maine because all ribes varieties carry a disease that's dangerous to white pines, which we have rather a lot of and are a staple of the state economy.

They’re not ribes, the ‘currants’ in British regional ‘cakes’ (Welsh, Eccles, Chorley …) are dried small grapes. Wikipedia tells me they’re called ‘Zante currants’ in the US.

Thanks @ErrolTheDragon . I've never seen Zante currants (ouch egregious misspelling in my previous post...) on sale in my local supermarket so I'm not sure the distinction is clear to authorities here, but I'm guessing that if I chopped raisins that might work, or used sultanas (which are called golden raisins here). Dried blueberries and dried cranberries are available but wouldn't be quite the same I think.

Raisins would be closer in taste than sultanas, I wouldn’t bother chopping them.

I visited a shop in Solva, Pembrokeshire a couple of years ago that sold many different variations of Welshcake including chocolate!

I use whatever dried fruit I have in Welsh cakes (I’m not proper Welsh though). I’ve also made them with chocolate and orange zest which is definitely non standard. But then traditionally they involve lard and I’m vegetarian so I’ve never made them fully traditional. For shop bought, Tan y Castell are good.

Zante Currants? That's like Calais Cognac. Currant is derived from Corinth.

I loved the Pinter cheese scones in one act!

Wotcha @bignosebignose how've you been?

There's a whole thread of Butlerian recipes:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womensrights/5302589-chatgpt-describes-how-to-butter-toast-in-the-style-of-judith-butler

(While we're reminiscing, I have to say the Butlerian posts remind me of the one with the tiny headgear in the old place.)

Ah, the Very Clever people.

As clever as this one? https://x.com/SVPhillimore/status/1904997123902312696?t=xRkWNFVtAhcv1lCy8s3pag&s=19

I liked one of the replies below, suggesting that the writer would suit a chair at the University of Sussex.

I saw that! It's insanely illogical, isn't it?

Just another dim bulb. Who never troubled to think through the logic of what they're saying. Sex and sexual orientation are two separate things; you can't mix'n'match them to suit your 'argument'.

now I feel bad for the cognitively damaged sheep.

Prompted by one of today's images on Chronophoto today, does anyone know is it a 'rule' that pride-related signage in the blue/pink progress colours has to be on buff cardboard? I used to think it was shortage of materials, but it happens too relentlessly to be that. Is being illegible a central element of 'queer', or is there a theory that that chalk and cardboard combo (the chalks have to be supplied from somewhere) lends 'authenticity'?