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TWO “Female Boxers” Set To Compete At Paris 2024 Were Previously Disqualified From Women’s World Championship For Having “XY Chromosomes”

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Signalbox · 28/07/2024 07:31

Surely this cannot be true. In boxing of all sports. I thought boxing had told men they needed to compete with other men?

”Two athletes competing at the Paris Olympics as “women” were previously disqualified from a women’s world championship for having “XY chromosomes.” Imane Khelif of Algeria and Lin Yu-Ting of Taiwan are scheduled to compete in Olympic women’s boxing next week despite past questions surrounding their biological sex.”

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Signalbox · 02/08/2024 08:38

SabrinaThwaite · 02/08/2024 01:08

And just when you thought that Billy Bragg couldn’t be more of arsehole.

That’s vile. So disrespectful.

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Grandmasswagbag · 02/08/2024 08:38

Does the IOC follow each governing bodies rules for every other sport? How has this been allowed to happen. It's a right mess and it's not fair on either athlete.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 02/08/2024 08:40

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 02/08/2024 08:38

That's good to see

PronounssheRa · 02/08/2024 08:41

I admire Carini so much. She was brave to step into that ring, I expect she knew she couldn't win. But what she did do was shine the biggest spotlight on this issue.

The IOC are forcing deletions for anyone reposting video of the 'fight'. Do they do that when people repost any other footage from the Olympics?

Kriscross · 02/08/2024 08:42

Men whether trans identifying as 'female' or with under development of testes at birth are still men.

The definition is XX woman and XY or XXY or any Y is male.

CaveMum · 02/08/2024 08:42

Oh hurrah Nicola! I was so worried when she posted that she had something to say and then nothing happened, I wondered if her agent/sponsors had told her to be quiet.

AstonScrapedMyDataAndTheOnlyThingIGotWasThisName · 02/08/2024 08:43

CaveMum · 02/08/2024 08:31

The male athletes are starting to stand up, Daley Thomson and Chris Tomlinson have spoken out for a long time (I’m sure there are others). Boris B and Barry McGuigan have now stuck their heads above the parapet and I’d hope, now that he’s retired, Andy Murray won’t be far behind - hopefully Judy will give him a shove.

I was hopeful Nicola Adams was about to speak up last night, but she went very quiet despite saying on Twitter she had something to say.

Nicola Adams has just said she stands with Carini! Link: https://x.com/nicolaadamsobe/status/1819270612646281642?s=61&t=TN4CzXKpOm6TjNuEIWLnuA

oops, cross posted!

CaveMum · 02/08/2024 08:43

Grandmasswagbag · 02/08/2024 08:38

Does the IOC follow each governing bodies rules for every other sport? How has this been allowed to happen. It's a right mess and it's not fair on either athlete.

My understanding is that because the IOC have suspended the IBA as a recognised governing body they get to make up their own rules.

Signalbox · 02/08/2024 08:52

AstonScrapedMyDataAndTheOnlyThingIGotWasThisName · 02/08/2024 08:43

Nicola Adams has just said she stands with Carini! Link: https://x.com/nicolaadamsobe/status/1819270612646281642?s=61&t=TN4CzXKpOm6TjNuEIWLnuA

oops, cross posted!

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For those not on Twitter…

TWO “Female Boxers” Set To Compete At Paris 2024 Were Previously Disqualified From Women’s World Championship For Having “XY Chromosomes”
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kiterunning · 02/08/2024 08:53

I think that the level of engagement and abuse on social media just indicates the massive panic of TRAs/MRAs who know now that this is a defining moment as more and more people are ditching the Kool-Aid.

Kriscross · 02/08/2024 09:00

kiterunning · 02/08/2024 08:53

I think that the level of engagement and abuse on social media just indicates the massive panic of TRAs/MRAs who know now that this is a defining moment as more and more people are ditching the Kool-Aid.

I agree. People realise where this twaw and using dsd to muddy the waters is going.

People realise more and more biological sex matters. The social contagion of the children is sad and untold damage and confusion on the way. So many kids thinking they are in 'the wrong body' 🤔

NoBinturongsHereMate · 02/08/2024 09:03

Barry McGuigan isn't just now sticking his head above the parapet - he's been speaking up for women's sport for a while.

Snowypeaks · 02/08/2024 09:07

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 02/08/2024 08:38

Good on her. Clear and unequivocal.

EsmaCannonball · 02/08/2024 09:22

Sharron Davies, Daley Thompson, Barry McGuigan; I'm so pleased that the sports stars who were loved in my youth are on the right side of this.

Mmmnotsure · 02/08/2024 09:30

Not forgetting Martina Navratilova as well.

CaveMum · 02/08/2024 09:30

@NoBinturongsHereMate thanks, I hadn’t seen Barry stand up previously so happy to be corrected.

EsmaCannonball · 02/08/2024 09:31

Oh god, yes. Martina, who was told to educate herself, and then did.

I don't hold out much hope for the crisp-muncher, though.

Datun · 02/08/2024 10:01

WarriorN · 02/08/2024 08:37

Nicola Adams

Crikey, I did not know that women were not allowed to box professionally until 1998.

No wonder women like Nicola Adams are speaking up. Women have the sport for 25 years, and then men try to take it off them.

CaveMum · 02/08/2024 10:06

EsmaCannonball · 02/08/2024 09:31

Oh god, yes. Martina, who was told to educate herself, and then did.

I don't hold out much hope for the crisp-muncher, though.

And Mara Yamauchi of course, we can’t forget her.

CaveMum · 02/08/2024 10:06

Useful thread on DSDs here that is worth bookmarking.

x.com/hoovlet/status/1819041282594873759?s=46&t=vZsKCHJJ4lL6NrAoNyJFww

CaveMum · 02/08/2024 10:21

IOC daily press conference live now. Lots of questions on boxing apparently but I missed the first 10 mins.

https://www.youtube.com/live/8Qhq_kJZeEw?si=g77hROfRtkw153S2

Before you continue to YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/live/8Qhq_kJZeEw?si=g77hROfRtkw153S2

MarieDeGournay · 02/08/2024 10:22

Grandmasswagbag · 02/08/2024 08:38

Does the IOC follow each governing bodies rules for every other sport? How has this been allowed to happen. It's a right mess and it's not fair on either athlete.

The IBA/IOC situation has been dealt with previously on this and other threads -

briefly, the IBA was found to be corrupt - financial dodginess, match fixing etc - by an independent review and was stripped of its credentials, or whatever the term is, by the IOC, so it is the IOC's own waffly eligibility rules - 'if it says female on your passport, you're female enough to fight females' - that governs boxing at the Paris Olympics.
The current IBA is a new reformed version, but still isn't 100% trusted, so any statements they make are open to question by supporters of Khelif and Lin.

I'm not saying that I think the current IBA is still dodgy, I'm just saying that a lot of people on SM are seizing on the IBA's past corruption to dismiss the validity tests that previously ruled Khelif and Lin out of women's boxing.
So saying 'The IBA ruled they were biological males' is easily waved away - unfortunately and unfairly, but that's how it is on SM.

WarriorN · 02/08/2024 10:29

CaveMum · 02/08/2024 10:21

IOC daily press conference live now. Lots of questions on boxing apparently but I missed the first 10 mins.

https://www.youtube.com/live/8Qhq_kJZeEw?si=g77hROfRtkw153S2

The question has just been asked.

The interviewer said he's just interviewed Lisa Nandy who said she felt uneasy watching.

Mark Adams has brushed it off and said a woman athlete is being stigmatised.

WarriorN · 02/08/2024 10:35

Around 22 mins in

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