Elon Musk makes bombshell claim about his transgender child

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Musk's position which he has held for a while is made made clear in this Jordan Peterson interview:

Elon Musk makes bombshell claim about his transgender son Xavier and how he was 'tricked': 'It's evil'

Elon Musk spoke out about how he believes he was 'tricked' by the woke mind virus into allowing his child to become a transgender woman.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13661573/Elon-Musk-makes-bombshell-claim-transgender-child-Tesla-CEO-tricked-evil.html

I think this is the counterpart to the TRA parents who are locked into supporting gender stuff. The parents who have seen through it and are committed to fighting back. Either you go the gender crit route or you back the right.

Musk is now funding Trump's election campaign to 45 million a month.

Interestingly Musk weirdly told JKR off for being too obsessed with women's rights recently.

The interesting thing will be that even though Musk is clearly against gender stuff he like other men with that position he will not really be targeted to the same extent a woman will be. Hardly any TRA will leave X or refuse to admire Musk's various projects. They won't abandon Marvel which put Musk in a movie Iron Man 2 in the same way they want to cancel Harry Potter. Because men get to do what they want.

This is another reason the gender project is increasingly unravelling. They want to stop women saying things, but at the same time they are not as concerned when powerful male dominated groups like Catholicism, Islam or powerful male individuals like Musk or Eminem say similar things.

Your first sentence is just a lie.

That is not true.

As to the rest of your theories - Occams Razor applies here. If you are a trans person, having a transphobic parent is the biggest justification for going no contact you can imagine.

This wasn't Musk saying 'my son is dead and now I have a daughter' - this was 'my son is dead' full stop. Musk's child is alive - she just wants nothing to do with her father and I don't blame her.

The presenter of the podcast who said that is indeed a man. His guest was a woman though, I think she talks about menopause later in the episode (I fell asleep and need to go back and finish it) so I'll pay attention to what she says about that. It was male sporting performance she was giving examples of around the time of the mind virus comment though.

He's single handedly created the electric car market - therefore saving us from petrol

Single handedly reduced the price to orbit by 90%, enabling Humanity to become a multi planet species -essential for our survival

And he's almost single handedly going to fix paraplegics - this is SF and bloody good on him for doing all of this. We need it

Wrong. Puberty blockers do not cause permanent infertility.

Stop lying.

Do please explain how that first sentence is a lie? I'm all ears.

What utter nonsense

Just because Reddit tells gender questioning kids to abandon their parents, rather than getting high quality holistic help to deal with their mental health issues does not make what you are saying true. It in fact makes it part of the mind virus Musk is talking about

Musk's son - is dead. Because of lies, because of grooming, because of queer theory which exists to destroy family structures and break down social norms for some very suspect reasons.

Puberty blockers do not cause permanent infertility, that's how.

Sounds as if 'mind virus' is a repackaging of the meme (in the original Dawkins sense).

Puberty blockers are irreversible and cause permanent infertility.

We know you. We see you. Keep your alternative facts and your mind virus in your sub reddit.

Source? "That's how" is not particularly convincing in and of itself 😬

If you take the GnRH drugs for a short period of time, at a young age, to delay puberty then they don't permanently cause sterility. They can however cause massive amounts of other problems. They aren't magic sweeties.

If you take the same GnRH drugs to stop puberty, so that your body does not develop into an adult body, then that comes with sterility.

We need to be clear that the second of those is what Elon is discussing here. Not the first.

That's interesting. Thanks.

No - they don’t.

A child on puberty blockers who comes off them will return to normal or near normal fertility levels within a year.

He clearly wasn't "a transphobic parent" though now was he, he did sign off on puberty blockers. Presumably before they ever got to the doctor's office, he was enabling him to live as a girl. He then allowed him to go to the doctor's office. He could have refused and insisted that his son was a boy and must wear boy clothes etc, but he obviously agreed to go along with it all until he realised what was going on.

Indeed. That's the use they were intended for. Off label PB's for children thinking they've been born in the wrong body are catastrophic and even the captured NHS has had to stop saying they're reversible.

How many of these children actually stop taking the blockers and go through puberty?
I think we can safely assume that a twenty year old who hasn't gone through puberty has now passed the point where it's actually possible, whether they remain on blockers or not.
Therefore they are / have been sterilised.

That's completely untrue.

Because a lot of people are on them for indications such as endometriosis, breast cancer, as part of IVF regimes, or even for preservation of fertility before some chemo drugs are given.

There are plenty of side effects, there’s no need to make things up. It’s the cross sex hormones that are the problem for long term fertility.

Great to see Elon speaking out as this will be very widely reported. Hopefully it will give parents pause for thought. It might not help those who are further down the road but I think it will definitely help parents in the early stages.

Excellent also to see him you the phrase 'mind virus'. The more people who understand this concept the better. The madness around Covid, Trump and 'the far right' would be very good examples of it in action.

Yes this is true. It’s weird everyone forgets this.

But I do think we had more niches for people to experiment within more harmlessly. The youth of today seem very beige. I wonder if that’s a tiktok algorithm thing.

It seems all the niches have merged together to form some kind of street gym bunny meets 90s balloon pant meets finance bro.

That clip is so sad. We’ve become accustomed to seeing doctors as omnipotent and all knowing and of course many, if not most, parents would accept the diagnosis and treatment given by the medical professionals involved in the care of their gender questioning child.

Which makes the rush to gender ‘affirming’ medical treatment all the more despicable. Dr Moreau’s the lot of them, but the surgeons in particular.

Any drug will have different side effects depending on age, sex and duration.

A boy taking pubery blockers at the age of 12 for 5 years will will have differeng outcomes than a girl at 5 for 6 months, or a woman in her 30s for a year.

There is a question mark over whether PB at puberty can genuinely pause it, and full puberty can restart. Its difficult to get lots of data on this as so many of these children dont stop at PB, but automatically go on to take wrong sex hormones.

That's like saying if someone never stops taking the contraceptive pill, the pill causes permanent infertility.

The point is if a drug causes temporary infertility, the fact that some people may choose not to come off that drug does not mean the drug then causes permanent infertility.

And by the time any person is choosing a course of action that actually causes lifelong infertility, they are adults, not children.

Play the ball, not the man.

A lot of people are obsessed with attacking Musk, not the actual issue.

There is an issue with this rise of transgender children (and seems particularly prevalent in the rich and famous), and no one is willing to come out and say the actual consequences.

Now having said that, I do question whether Musk's child is using gender transition as a way to distance himself from his father, by creating a completely different identity/persona. A decent therapist would be able to see this a mile off. But getting to the root psychological issue is "conversion therapy".