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Cameron Allan found guilty of rape and murder: is this the "Decapitate Terfs" man?

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RoyalCorgi · 20/07/2024 07:40

A young man called Cameron Allan has been found guilty of raping and murdering a man:

news.sky.com/story/dylan-brister-and-cameron-allan-facing-life-sentences-for-rape-and-murder-of-young-father-in-fife-13181066 news.sky.com/story/dylan-brister-and-cameron-allan-facing-life-sentences-for-rape-and-murder-of-young-father-in-fife-13181066]]]]

There has been some suggesting that this is the same man who held the "Decapitate Terfs" sign at a demo in Scotland.

The photo used in the Sky News story doesn't look like him, but it seems not to be a recent photo. This tweet shows the pic used in another story about him (when he invited a hotel worker to take part in a porn movie), and puts it side by side with the Decapitate Terfs guy:

mobile.x.com/confusedteacups/status/1813634377932587465 mobile.x.com/confusedteacups/status/1813634377932587465]]

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Crouton19 · 20/07/2024 08:53

Different Cameron.

Hoardasurass · 20/07/2024 09:13

Crouton19 · 20/07/2024 08:53

Different Cameron.

Nope same man. He was identified at the time and his address in Dunfermline was given to the police as well, and he was even in court on another matter during the time the police were "actively looking for him" however after "extensive search" he couldn't be "identified or located"

https://x.com/murdo_fraser/status/1814382710002999790

Cameron Allan found guilty of rape and murder: is this the "Decapitate Terfs" man?
Twoshoesnewshoes · 20/07/2024 09:28

Gosh that’s awful. And horribly unsurprising cos, y’know, just threatening death to women isn’t actual violence…

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/07/2024 09:39

But... this never happens! The violent men who turn up at protests and women's events to threaten women aren't dangerous in real life, that's just paranoia!

Crouton19 · 20/07/2024 10:05

Hoardasurass · 20/07/2024 09:13

Nope same man. He was identified at the time and his address in Dunfermline was given to the police as well, and he was even in court on another matter during the time the police were "actively looking for him" however after "extensive search" he couldn't be "identified or located"

https://x.com/murdo_fraser/status/1814382710002999790

Ah I was thinking of the other TRA cameron in the news this week!

Hoardasurass · 20/07/2024 10:16

Crouton19 · 20/07/2024 10:05

Ah I was thinking of the other TRA cameron in the news this week!

That would be the SNP equality officer who wanted to punch women and was convicted of multiple rapes and sexual assaults, who was also allowed to access group therapy at Edinburgh rape crisis centre

hollysmumma · 20/07/2024 10:20

I think the nose is different.

RoyalCorgi · 20/07/2024 10:21

Nope same man. He was identified at the time and his address in Dunfermline was given to the police as well, and he was even in court on another matter during the time the police were "actively looking for him" however after "extensive search" he couldn't be "identified or located."

I remember a discussion about it on Mumsnet at the time - can't find it now. (Might have been deleted.) After Cameron's initial court appearance in 2022 on the murder charge, it was very hard to find any references to him - it's taken a very long time to come to trial.

I'm not an expert in criminal law but it seems strange to have let someone on a murder charge out on bail.

Also strange that the police weren't able to track down the "Decapitate Terfs" person, or even to confirm or deny that the person holding the placard was the same as the person on a murder charge. What's going on?

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TheCadoganArms · 20/07/2024 10:22

It's almost like there is a pattern forming......

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 20/07/2024 10:24

That other article in the replies was interesting, he would be the right age to be that child and would definitely explain why he is protected by police Scotland where they can.

RoyalCorgi · 20/07/2024 10:28

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 20/07/2024 10:24

That other article in the replies was interesting, he would be the right age to be that child and would definitely explain why he is protected by police Scotland where they can.

Yes, the Cameron Allan convicted of murder is the same child whose mother died in a car accident when he was three - he used it as mitigation in his defence. (This was in another tweet - I'll have a look later.)

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Hoardasurass · 20/07/2024 10:32

RoyalCorgi · 20/07/2024 10:21

Nope same man. He was identified at the time and his address in Dunfermline was given to the police as well, and he was even in court on another matter during the time the police were "actively looking for him" however after "extensive search" he couldn't be "identified or located."

I remember a discussion about it on Mumsnet at the time - can't find it now. (Might have been deleted.) After Cameron's initial court appearance in 2022 on the murder charge, it was very hard to find any references to him - it's taken a very long time to come to trial.

I'm not an expert in criminal law but it seems strange to have let someone on a murder charge out on bail.

Also strange that the police weren't able to track down the "Decapitate Terfs" person, or even to confirm or deny that the person holding the placard was the same as the person on a murder charge. What's going on?

I could comment but would probably get a perma ban so will just say that wings over Scotland has done some interesting stuff on this and Ms oswald

RoyalCorgi · 20/07/2024 10:35

Yes, the Cameron Allan convicted of murder is the same child whose mother died in a car accident when he was three - he used it as mitigation in his defence.

Just realised it's in the Sky News article I linked to in the OP:

"Allan, who also received £1,200 a month in benefits, said he was diagnosed with an attachment disorder after watching his mother die in a car accident when he was three.
"He stated he was now disgusted that he took videos.
"Allan claimed that Mr Simpson was conscious and consenting when he was tied up by the pair."

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INeedAPensieve · 20/07/2024 10:37

Oh how awful and also if same man, this is just constant now isn't it??? What is WRONG with the SNP that they are propping up these violent sexual predators and murderers???????

Will the MSPs comment? The ones in front of the sign? No? Or Karen Adams? Pal of the other evil Cameron? No?

Tumbleweed...

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 20/07/2024 10:38

Hoardasurass · 20/07/2024 10:16

That would be the SNP equality officer who wanted to punch women and was convicted of multiple rapes and sexual assaults, who was also allowed to access group therapy at Edinburgh rape crisis centre

Ah, just trivial stuff then 🙁

When will credible threats of violence against women be taken seriously by police and courts? When women are considered equal human beings, maybe.

ticktickticktickBOOM · 20/07/2024 10:48

This story is shocking

'we're just young boys having fun'

Yeah right - you raped and murdered someone you absolute scum! I hope they get the treatment they deserve in prison.

ticktickticktickBOOM · 20/07/2024 10:51

Same man without a doubt

ticktickticktickBOOM · 20/07/2024 10:53

pic . . .

Cameron Allan found guilty of rape and murder: is this the "Decapitate Terfs" man?
ArabellaScott · 20/07/2024 11:02

Yes, it's him. Various people did a fair bit of digging at the time, info was passed to police, who did nothing.

I suppose having a mother who was police before her tragic death may possibly have contributed to that - I remember thinking the total non action of Police Scotland at the time was odd.

There should be an enquiry into the police's non-action. Hopefully Murdo Fraser will prompt one.

Man with a sign that says 'decapitate terfs' - has identified as a female name and posted pictures of himself in a wig and make up in the past. And turns out to be a murderer and rapist. Protected by Police Scotland and supported by SNP MSPs, who stood grinning in front of his sign.

Echoes of Sarah Jane Baker, who incites people to 'punch em in the fucking face' and holds up signs about killing JKR, who turns out to have been a violent, horrible, serious criminal, yet has shared a platform with politicians.

Just as women have been saying for years - create a 'sacred caste' of people who are allowed to do what they want and dangerous, predatory and abusive people (mostly men) will exploit that situation.

Can anyone really not see the patterns here?

Women are trying to sound the alarm and are the ones getting arrested, silenced, slandered and attacked.

Which prison is Allan going to? If he identifies as a woman and goes to a women's prison, the papers won't be allowed to report it, will they?

Cameron Allan found guilty of rape and murder: is this the "Decapitate Terfs" man?
Cameron Allan found guilty of rape and murder: is this the "Decapitate Terfs" man?
StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 20/07/2024 11:13

Man with a sign that says 'decapitate terfs' - has identified as a female name and posted pictures of himself in a wig and make up in the past. And turns out to be a murderer and rapist. Protected by Police Scotland and supported by SNP MSPs, who stood grinning in front of his sign.

Echoes of Sarah Jane Baker, who incites people to 'punch em in the fucking face' and holds up signs about killing JKR, who turns out to have been a violent, horrible, serious criminal, yet has shared a platform with politicians.

Just as women have been saying for years - create a 'sacred caste' of people who are allowed to do what they want and dangerous, predatory and abusive people (mostly men) will exploit that situation.

Accurate and profoundly dispiriting summary.

ArabellaScott · 20/07/2024 11:18

A clearer picture.

Cameron Allan found guilty of rape and murder: is this the "Decapitate Terfs" man?
Cameron Allan found guilty of rape and murder: is this the "Decapitate Terfs" man?
Hoardasurass · 20/07/2024 11:37

Is that Alec Cole Hamiltons friend Beth in the background of your 1st picture @ArabellaScott

Morwenscapacioussleeves · 20/07/2024 11:55

Susan Dalgety has pulled lots of it together here

https://mobile.x.com/DalgetySusan/status/1814594782947065929

Delighted that MF has the bit between his teeth on this - police Scotland have questions to answer

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https://mobile.x.com/DalgetySusan/status/1814594782947065929

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/07/2024 11:58

Is that Alec Cole Hamiltons friend Beth in the background of your 1st picture

Looks like it!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/07/2024 12:00

I suppose having a mother who was police before her tragic death may possibly have contributed to that

There's someone on one of the Facebook reports who commented that her deceased partner used to live next door to him when he was on bail, and the police came round to check on him every evening apparently. She wasn't impressed.

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