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KJK Live streams being sacked from her GPs surgery - trans staff member

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HootyMcBooby · 19/07/2024 17:15

Forward to 19.15 for the actual phone call.

KJK confrontation with trans staff member at her GPs surgery.

This ideology has no place in the NHS.
As someone whose Mother, aged 72, had a stroke and waited in an NHS corridor on a trolley for 16 hours only to be asked as the doctors FIRST question....... "how do you identify?", I feel the NHS is captured beyond hope,

I've had to leave my GP surgery due to an activist working there. #LWS #LetWomenSpeak #LWSLocals

This is the original #AdultHumanFemale channel and home of Kellie-Jay Keen aka Posie Parker.If you would like to donate to help support us, click here ⇨ http...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfiFJ4nbHUk

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BeachParty · 21/07/2024 20:48

WinkyMcFlapFace · 21/07/2024 20:44

Obsessed huh?

Or yunno, just replying to stuff, on a discussion thread, on a discussion forum.

Where did anyone on the thread say they think KJK should die? Feels like that would have been noticed and at least tutted at.

It literally hasn't happened, and yes I'm pretty sure I've read the whole thread.
Making shit up again.

BeachParty · 21/07/2024 20:52

Non GC people, just do what you’re told , be quiet and go away so that the usual business of trans = bad can continue unfettered

Bout right

Alwaystired94 · 21/07/2024 20:54

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 20:38

I wasn’t aware anyone was ‘standing up to me’. So no struggle. Sorry 😂. I’m not telling anyone they can’t post. One poster however is super boring. To me. Based on many threads.

I’m aware of the same posters parroting the same lines, whataboutery, ignoring any other viewpoints, thinking KJK should DIE, projection (that’s to you btw), being obsessed with my posts….

not one person on this thread has wished harm on KJK let alone death.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 20:54

Non GC people, just do what you’re told , be quiet and go away so that the usual business of trans = bad can continue unfettered

Where did anyone literally say this? Seeing as you all like literal.

Alwaystired94 · 21/07/2024 20:55

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 20:54

Non GC people, just do what you’re told , be quiet and go away so that the usual business of trans = bad can continue unfettered

Where did anyone literally say this? Seeing as you all like literal.

hopefully the tide has turned now and more and more people will wake up to the dangers of people like KJK.

quantumbutterfly · 21/07/2024 20:56

BeachParty · 21/07/2024 20:47

I’m aware of the same posters parroting the same lines, whataboutery, ignoring any other viewpoints, thinking KJK should DIE

Literally no one on here has said she should DIE 😳🙄
The only whataboutery I've seen on here is those from the "GC" view randomly bringing India into the discussion, or talking about men in women's spaces.
This is a thread about someone who KJ said was female.
Whataboutery all over the place.

Oh dear. What you call whataboutery I would call an example to illustrate my point of view. I know yours is entrenched and unwavering.

BeachParty · 21/07/2024 21:07

Alwaystired94 · 21/07/2024 20:55

hopefully the tide has turned now and more and more people will wake up to the dangers of people like KJK.

This thread is encouraging at least, much more dissenting views on this one than I've seen in the past where nothing short of idolising got piled on.
Nothing good can come of identity politics where you worship people, which some people seem to do.

CassieMaddox · 21/07/2024 21:08

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 20:38

I wasn’t aware anyone was ‘standing up to me’. So no struggle. Sorry 😂. I’m not telling anyone they can’t post. One poster however is super boring. To me. Based on many threads.

I’m aware of the same posters parroting the same lines, whataboutery, ignoring any other viewpoints, thinking KJK should DIE, projection (that’s to you btw), being obsessed with my posts….

😂
Oh dear
Showing yourself up now

CassieMaddox · 21/07/2024 21:09

WinkyMcFlapFace · 21/07/2024 20:47

Fair point. I’m not sure where the line is on who’s officially GC or who’s been cast out.

I used to be GC but failed the purity tests because I’m all good with preferred pronouns, and trans people having jobs, and children and places to live.

Yeah same 😂

Alwaystired94 · 21/07/2024 21:10

BeachParty · 21/07/2024 21:07

This thread is encouraging at least, much more dissenting views on this one than I've seen in the past where nothing short of idolising got piled on.
Nothing good can come of identity politics where you worship people, which some people seem to do.

agreed. when i’ve brought up any criticism of her before on this board i’ve been shot down for daring to speak against her. and called a TRA for not agreeing with her.

Alwaystired94 · 21/07/2024 21:11

CassieMaddox · 21/07/2024 21:09

Yeah same 😂

silly you not toeing the GC line enough.
how dare you believe that trans people are entitled to JOBS?!?!?

OldCrone · 21/07/2024 21:14

Omlettes · 21/07/2024 17:18

Hey, if thats reference to my post, I didnt 'attack' his business, thats incredibly disengenious. I mentioned it because Im furious at her double standards the incredible hypocrisy of her rant at the staff given that, and of going after other GCs for not being hardline enough and creating schisms and settingGCers against each other.
I take it you saw her followers behaviour to Stella O'Malley and Andrew Doyle for not being pure enough ? And the hideous homophobia Andrew copped on X leading him to back off X and write a long piece about it?
Or the excruciating interview with Benjamin Boyce KJK and SOM where she acted like judge and jury to Stella in the most extraordinary way?

Or the schisms with Julie Bindel or JCJ? I vehemently defended KJK at the time against accusations of grifting much to my embarrassment now.
LWS is great and crucial, but her behaviour undermines the seriousness of the endeavour.
As to the overly fanatical defense of her on here, as others have said, its definitely cultlike behaviour.

There have been some natural disagreements between people. These weren't created by KJK. People sometimes just don't see eye to eye and have different ways of achieving similar aims. She wasn't single-handedly responsible for these differences of opinion.

Have you forgotten why she went off and set up on her own in the first place? She said something that WPUK didn't like and was disinvited from a meeting where she was going to speak because they didn't consider her pure enough.

This was at a time when WPUK had self-confessed autogynephile Debbie Hayton and other men pretending to be women speaking at their meetings. I already had a bit of a problem with them even before the KJK incident, because those creepy men were obviously getting off on being accepted as 'women' and I thought WPUK were completely wrong to include them.

After the cancellation, WPUK and other academic and left wing groups then used KJK as a human punchbag with masses of abuse aimed at her. JCJ was particularly venomous about her. There are threads on here if you haven't seen them.

Schisms are created by different groups disagreeing. You can't blame a single person for that.

And I don't see a fanatical defence of her interaction with the GP surgery on here. Most of us have said we disagree with what she did there.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 21:15

This thread is the thread that keeps on giving. Is trans people not being allowed to have jobs, kids and housing 'the GC line'. Or is it a comment KJK made which has been mainly denounced? How does one make that link to what the majority of GC people think?

It's like a wee mini echo chamber now. I'm here for it 🍿

CassieMaddox · 21/07/2024 21:17

OldCrone · 21/07/2024 21:14

There have been some natural disagreements between people. These weren't created by KJK. People sometimes just don't see eye to eye and have different ways of achieving similar aims. She wasn't single-handedly responsible for these differences of opinion.

Have you forgotten why she went off and set up on her own in the first place? She said something that WPUK didn't like and was disinvited from a meeting where she was going to speak because they didn't consider her pure enough.

This was at a time when WPUK had self-confessed autogynephile Debbie Hayton and other men pretending to be women speaking at their meetings. I already had a bit of a problem with them even before the KJK incident, because those creepy men were obviously getting off on being accepted as 'women' and I thought WPUK were completely wrong to include them.

After the cancellation, WPUK and other academic and left wing groups then used KJK as a human punchbag with masses of abuse aimed at her. JCJ was particularly venomous about her. There are threads on here if you haven't seen them.

Schisms are created by different groups disagreeing. You can't blame a single person for that.

And I don't see a fanatical defence of her interaction with the GP surgery on here. Most of us have said we disagree with what she did there.

Here's why they didn't invite her
https://womansplaceuk.org/2022/06/22/womans-place-and-posie-parker/

She does tweet anti-Islam stuff a lot. Its a reason I'm not a fan, I totally agree with what they wrote here.

I think they've ultimately been proved right about a lot of what they said, despite her constantly sending flying monkeys in

Woman’s Place and Kellie-Jay Keen (aka Posie Parker) - Woman's Place UK

There is much misinformation about WPUK's position in relation to Kellie-Jay Keen (Posie Parker). Read WPUK's statement to find out more...

https://womansplaceuk.org/2022/06/22/womans-place-and-posie-parker

SummerScarf · 21/07/2024 21:18

CassieMaddox · 21/07/2024 21:09

Yeah same 😂

And me

HootyMcBooby · 21/07/2024 21:18

WinkyMcFlapFace · 21/07/2024 20:31

Back to the topic of thread then…

Current argument from GC quarters seems to be that wearing a pronoun badge makes you fair game for suspicion of mal intent at the very least, but especially if anyone known to be GC is in the vicinity.

And if a pronoun badge wearer is happened upon by KJK they should expect to be sworn at, harassed, doxxed and abused, even if they are just doing their job in a perfectly normal way.

And ok, so KJK maybe went a teeeny bit far this time, but the trans made her do it.

I have just re-watched the video, but the trans receptionist was not sworn at, (despite many people here stating that as a fact), doxxed, or harrassed in the interaction in the surgery.
The swearing happened to a different member of staff who answered the phone when KJK called to ask that her records not be accessed.

In the first interaction with the trans staff member, according to KJK, all she said was "fucking pronouns" on her way out the door.
In the first interaction, she said ideological symbols and pronoun badges were not appropriate in a front facing NHS role.
She said badges should not be worn at work.
She said she would email a complaint, and that it was unprofessional.
She said that she didn't believe this person was a man.
That was the extent of the interaction.

The trans staff member was not identified by name at all nor sworn at.

Yes, KJK refuted that she was a man, which may or may not be "harrassment" according to your viewpoint, but she was absolutely not doxxed, abused or sworn at.

Just to clarify.

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quantumbutterfly · 21/07/2024 21:21

HootyMcBooby · 21/07/2024 21:18

I have just re-watched the video, but the trans receptionist was not sworn at, (despite many people here stating that as a fact), doxxed, or harrassed in the interaction in the surgery.
The swearing happened to a different member of staff who answered the phone when KJK called to ask that her records not be accessed.

In the first interaction with the trans staff member, according to KJK, all she said was "fucking pronouns" on her way out the door.
In the first interaction, she said ideological symbols and pronoun badges were not appropriate in a front facing NHS role.
She said badges should not be worn at work.
She said she would email a complaint, and that it was unprofessional.
She said that she didn't believe this person was a man.
That was the extent of the interaction.

The trans staff member was not identified by name at all nor sworn at.

Yes, KJK refuted that she was a man, which may or may not be "harrassment" according to your viewpoint, but she was absolutely not doxxed, abused or sworn at.

Just to clarify.

Don't let facts get in the way of a good argument.😶

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 21:22

quantumbutterfly · 21/07/2024 21:21

Don't let facts get in the way of a good argument.😶

Beat me to it.

saraclara · 21/07/2024 21:24

In the first interaction, she said ideological symbols and pronoun badges were not appropriate in a front facing NHS role.
She said badges should not be worn at work.
She said she would email a complaint, and that it was unprofessional.
She said that she didn't believe this person was a man.
That was the extent of the interaction.

All of which were harassment of someone just doing their job. And I don't believe for a second that "fucking pronouns" was said under her breath as she left This is KJK. Everything about her is loud and blatant.

HootyMcBooby · 21/07/2024 21:25

Whose "making stuff up "now?

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BeachParty · 21/07/2024 21:27

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 21:15

This thread is the thread that keeps on giving. Is trans people not being allowed to have jobs, kids and housing 'the GC line'. Or is it a comment KJK made which has been mainly denounced? How does one make that link to what the majority of GC people think?

It's like a wee mini echo chamber now. I'm here for it 🍿

Yeah, again, nobody's actually doing that though. 🙄
I'd say I'm GC in a way, as I don't think you can literally change sex.
I have absolutely no problem with trans people going about their business, just doing their job.
Just "being" in public.
No-one should be harassed for that.
Some clearly do. Hence this thread.
Doesn't mean everyone's the same 😕

Alwaystired94 · 21/07/2024 21:29

BeachParty · 21/07/2024 21:27

Yeah, again, nobody's actually doing that though. 🙄
I'd say I'm GC in a way, as I don't think you can literally change sex.
I have absolutely no problem with trans people going about their business, just doing their job.
Just "being" in public.
No-one should be harassed for that.
Some clearly do. Hence this thread.
Doesn't mean everyone's the same 😕

summed up my feelings too.

trans people are human first and foremost. so the idea of having a problem with them going about their business is an issue.

WinkyMcFlapFace · 21/07/2024 21:33

Yeah I’m sure the trans receptionist is impossible to identify since KJK live streamed (without consent) the name of the manager and surgery.

And no doubt they’re feeling fine and dandy and not in any way harassed after having their body discussed in such flattering terms by KJK, coincidentally right alongside a rant about child rapists.

Absolutely, hearing someone with such a big following call for you to be sacked wouldn’t feel at all like you’d been abused for doing your job.

The stretching is eye-watering.

It would be entertaining if there weren’t actual real identifiable humans getting thrown to the wolves by KJK for doing their jobs.

HootyMcBooby · 21/07/2024 21:34

I daresay that if the trans person has been wearing the ideological badges and KJK bumped into her in a queue at the supermarket, she would probably have done the internal eye-roll everyone on here spoke about and went about her day.

The problem is that this person, as KJK sees it, is in a front facing NHS role promoting gender ideology.
That's what her issue is as I see it.

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HootyMcBooby · 21/07/2024 21:35

Yeah, like the "stretching" done here many many times when saying the receptionist was "sworn at and abused" as if that was a fact.

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