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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

KJK Live streams being sacked from her GPs surgery - trans staff member

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HootyMcBooby · 19/07/2024 17:15

Forward to 19.15 for the actual phone call.

KJK confrontation with trans staff member at her GPs surgery.

This ideology has no place in the NHS.
As someone whose Mother, aged 72, had a stroke and waited in an NHS corridor on a trolley for 16 hours only to be asked as the doctors FIRST question....... "how do you identify?", I feel the NHS is captured beyond hope,

I've had to leave my GP surgery due to an activist working there. #LWS #LetWomenSpeak #LWSLocals

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfiFJ4nbHUk

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BeachParty · 21/07/2024 19:28

Not making stuff up. The fragrant India Willoughby claimed to be more of a woman than jkr. It is a claim I've heard elsewhere too

What the hell has all that got to do with this thread though?
"Fragrant" 🙄 nice choice of words, again demonising, attributing negativity through language (and no you didn't mean just lovely flowers 🌹 lol)
It's whataboutery.

quantumbutterfly · 21/07/2024 19:31

BeachParty · 21/07/2024 19:28

Not making stuff up. The fragrant India Willoughby claimed to be more of a woman than jkr. It is a claim I've heard elsewhere too

What the hell has all that got to do with this thread though?
"Fragrant" 🙄 nice choice of words, again demonising, attributing negativity through language (and no you didn't mean just lovely flowers 🌹 lol)
It's whataboutery.

I was replying to your earlier comment.
Your objection to my descriptive language is your subjective interpretation.

HootyMcBooby · 21/07/2024 19:40

Alwaystired94 · 21/07/2024 19:18

there is also no such thing as a ‘better’ woman or ‘more’ of a woman.

Well, I'm not really sure.

I am sure however, that women are "more" women than a man pretending to be a woman.

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HootyMcBooby · 21/07/2024 19:43

BeachParty · 21/07/2024 19:28

Not making stuff up. The fragrant India Willoughby claimed to be more of a woman than jkr. It is a claim I've heard elsewhere too

What the hell has all that got to do with this thread though?
"Fragrant" 🙄 nice choice of words, again demonising, attributing negativity through language (and no you didn't mean just lovely flowers 🌹 lol)
It's whataboutery.

Erm, have you actually read any of the stuff that India Willoughby has written?They don't need anybody to demonise them, they do a great job of that all by themselves.

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quantumbutterfly · 21/07/2024 19:44

HootyMcBooby · 21/07/2024 19:40

Well, I'm not really sure.

I am sure however, that women are "more" women than a man pretending to be a woman.

I guess it depends on your criteria for 'better' , and moral judgements are subjective within our experience.

FrippEnos · 21/07/2024 20:06

Alwaystired94 · 21/07/2024 19:15

no the opposite - that the behaviour people here state only TRAs show is actually seen in GC as well.

People are a spread of beliefs and actions so I don't dispute it.
But we have seen footage of TRAs abusing women and get away with it.
So IMO its very much that you reap what you sow and I see this as the reason why KJK has moved from response to attack.
I don't agree with it, but we have seen over the last few years that those that make the most noise are the ones that got their way until people stood up to them.

FrippEnos · 21/07/2024 20:07

quantumbutterfly · 21/07/2024 19:44

I guess it depends on your criteria for 'better' , and moral judgements are subjective within our experience.

Surely one of the main criteria for being a better woman, is actually being a woman.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 20:09

I don't agree with 'more of a woman'. You're either a woman or you're not.

IW is a highly unhinged individual as evidenced by the tweets/X IW puts out.

CassieMaddox · 21/07/2024 20:11

FrippEnos · 21/07/2024 20:06

People are a spread of beliefs and actions so I don't dispute it.
But we have seen footage of TRAs abusing women and get away with it.
So IMO its very much that you reap what you sow and I see this as the reason why KJK has moved from response to attack.
I don't agree with it, but we have seen over the last few years that those that make the most noise are the ones that got their way until people stood up to them.

Hmm.
She's always been more on "attack" when it comes to trans people. I think she spotted an opportunity to make money from it.
Also again if she was a man claiming trauma had made them abusive we wouldn't accept it.

In my opinion the wind has changed considerably in the past few years (noone really says TWAW any more) and she is scrabbling around to stay relevant. Therefore increasingly making videos of various fights/paranoia.

Maybe she's turning into the female version of Danielle Muscato 🤔

CassieMaddox · 21/07/2024 20:11

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 20:09

I don't agree with 'more of a woman'. You're either a woman or you're not.

IW is a highly unhinged individual as evidenced by the tweets/X IW puts out.

Oh look, another derail/whatabout

Alwaystired94 · 21/07/2024 20:13

FrippEnos · 21/07/2024 20:06

People are a spread of beliefs and actions so I don't dispute it.
But we have seen footage of TRAs abusing women and get away with it.
So IMO its very much that you reap what you sow and I see this as the reason why KJK has moved from response to attack.
I don't agree with it, but we have seen over the last few years that those that make the most noise are the ones that got their way until people stood up to them.

i’ve seen both. and it’s disgusting both ways and i call it out when i see it.

quantumbutterfly · 21/07/2024 20:13

FrippEnos · 21/07/2024 20:07

Surely one of the main criteria for being a better woman, is actually being a woman.

Better is a word used in other contexts, so I tend to agree that a transwomen cannot be 'more of' a woman than a biological woman, but some biological women may not be morally 'better' as people.
Language eh? Evolved originally for communication, now more of a tool for obfuscation.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 20:15

CassieMaddox · 21/07/2024 20:11

Oh look, another derail/whatabout

No, adding to points already made. Bore off.

WinkyMcFlapFace · 21/07/2024 20:26

Thread rulez - only Wes is allowed to be snarky.

Non GC people, just do what you’re told , be quiet and go away so that the usual business of trans = bad can continue unfettered.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 20:27

WinkyMcFlapFace · 21/07/2024 20:26

Thread rulez - only Wes is allowed to be snarky.

Non GC people, just do what you’re told , be quiet and go away so that the usual business of trans = bad can continue unfettered.

Have a lie down. If you conflate points with opinions you don’t like with ‘snarky’ then that’s a you problem. I’m addressing points as they are made. I’ve had to make this point more than once now. You not added anything of value for a while now, you are preoccupied with my posts.

CassieMaddox · 21/07/2024 20:30

WinkyMcFlapFace · 21/07/2024 20:26

Thread rulez - only Wes is allowed to be snarky.

Non GC people, just do what you’re told , be quiet and go away so that the usual business of trans = bad can continue unfettered.

Yes

Edited - actually some of us are also GC. Just the wrong kind of GC.

WinkyMcFlapFace · 21/07/2024 20:31

Back to the topic of thread then…

Current argument from GC quarters seems to be that wearing a pronoun badge makes you fair game for suspicion of mal intent at the very least, but especially if anyone known to be GC is in the vicinity.

And if a pronoun badge wearer is happened upon by KJK they should expect to be sworn at, harassed, doxxed and abused, even if they are just doing their job in a perfectly normal way.

And ok, so KJK maybe went a teeeny bit far this time, but the trans made her do it.

Alwaystired94 · 21/07/2024 20:32

WinkyMcFlapFace · 21/07/2024 20:31

Back to the topic of thread then…

Current argument from GC quarters seems to be that wearing a pronoun badge makes you fair game for suspicion of mal intent at the very least, but especially if anyone known to be GC is in the vicinity.

And if a pronoun badge wearer is happened upon by KJK they should expect to be sworn at, harassed, doxxed and abused, even if they are just doing their job in a perfectly normal way.

And ok, so KJK maybe went a teeeny bit far this time, but the trans made her do it.

they were asking for it wearing what they did!!

WinkyMcFlapFace · 21/07/2024 20:34

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 20:27

Have a lie down. If you conflate points with opinions you don’t like with ‘snarky’ then that’s a you problem. I’m addressing points as they are made. I’ve had to make this point more than once now. You not added anything of value for a while now, you are preoccupied with my posts.

Edited

Pretty sure telling someone to bore off is snarky, but whatevs.

Also, again, you are not the thread police or the boss of mn.

Is it a struggle having people stand up to you for a change?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 20:38

WinkyMcFlapFace · 21/07/2024 20:34

Pretty sure telling someone to bore off is snarky, but whatevs.

Also, again, you are not the thread police or the boss of mn.

Is it a struggle having people stand up to you for a change?

I wasn’t aware anyone was ‘standing up to me’. So no struggle. Sorry 😂. I’m not telling anyone they can’t post. One poster however is super boring. To me. Based on many threads.

I’m aware of the same posters parroting the same lines, whataboutery, ignoring any other viewpoints, thinking KJK should DIE, projection (that’s to you btw), being obsessed with my posts….

BeachParty · 21/07/2024 20:43

Alwaystired94 · 21/07/2024 20:13

i’ve seen both. and it’s disgusting both ways and i call it out when i see it.

Same

WinkyMcFlapFace · 21/07/2024 20:44

Obsessed huh?

Or yunno, just replying to stuff, on a discussion thread, on a discussion forum.

Where did anyone on the thread say they think KJK should die? Feels like that would have been noticed and at least tutted at.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 20:44

WinkyMcFlapFace · 21/07/2024 20:44

Obsessed huh?

Or yunno, just replying to stuff, on a discussion thread, on a discussion forum.

Where did anyone on the thread say they think KJK should die? Feels like that would have been noticed and at least tutted at.

👍

BeachParty · 21/07/2024 20:47

I’m aware of the same posters parroting the same lines, whataboutery, ignoring any other viewpoints, thinking KJK should DIE

Literally no one on here has said she should DIE 😳🙄
The only whataboutery I've seen on here is those from the "GC" view randomly bringing India into the discussion, or talking about men in women's spaces.
This is a thread about someone who KJ said was female.
Whataboutery all over the place.

WinkyMcFlapFace · 21/07/2024 20:47

CassieMaddox · 21/07/2024 20:30

Yes

Edited - actually some of us are also GC. Just the wrong kind of GC.

Edited

Fair point. I’m not sure where the line is on who’s officially GC or who’s been cast out.

I used to be GC but failed the purity tests because I’m all good with preferred pronouns, and trans people having jobs, and children and places to live.

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