KJK Live streams being sacked from her GPs surgery - trans staff member

[HootyMcBooby]

Forward to 19.15 for the actual phone call.

KJK confrontation with trans staff member at her GPs surgery.

This ideology has no place in the NHS.
As someone whose Mother, aged 72, had a stroke and waited in an NHS corridor on a trolley for 16 hours only to be asked as the doctors FIRST question....... "how do you identify?", I feel the NHS is captured beyond hope,

People automatically attributing negative /criminal intention on someone based solely on their protected identity is the very definition of discrimination /bigotry.
Which is what posters are doing to this member of staff.

Or perhaps it's sarcasm. If there is no such thing as male energy or for that matter female energy, what does it mean to feel like a woman?

Ever heard of "innocent until proven guilty"?

This is pure prejudice on your part.

Whataboutery - nice try at a derail

Btw what does 'alex drummond' language mean?

Merely presenting an alternative reason other than being intimidated by a wee ideology pushing badge.

🤣 Google "broadening the bandwidth of being a woman" and have a look for yourself

Wearing a crucifix is "ideology pushing"
Wearing a "woman = adult human female" badge is ideology pushing.
Wearing a rainbow hat is ideology pushing.
Most people manage not to be "triggered" by badges. And if they are triggered they don't have the wherewithal to film it f9r their YouTube channel.
Flipping ridiculous. KJK needs to grow up.

Google masculine energy. Seeing as you don’t think it’s a thing.

Yes, the post will be subject to a DBS check. I know I lovingly call it the "I haven't been caught yet" check but the check is made nonetheless.

Random job advert (found under person spec)

https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/candidate/jobadvert/A0404-24-0007?keyword=receptionist&location=ne2&language=&page=1

As I've said already upthread, I don't for one minute condone KJK swearing or handling the situation as she did, but I WOULD like to see what the opinion is on what KJK was "trying" to ask the GP manager.

Would an "adult human female" pin have been permitted at that surgery?
A "woman" sweatshirt?
If people object to that, then they should also be objecting to trans ideology paraphenalia.
How you feel seeing an "adult human female" pin at a GP surgery, and would you feel differently about it than seeing a trans flag/pin/badge/lanyard etc?

I think ALL of this should have no place in any workplace, and especially in a healthcare setting. I'm not sure the GPs surgery should be promoting it at all and like it or not, pronoun badges / chest binders etc ARE one of the trappings of this movement that many people see as dangerous to many areas of life, not least vulnerable children or people on the spectrum (and which a 4 year research study by a doctor has highlighted as being problematic).
The NHS has no business promoting or allowing people to promote this.

And as many have already said here, pronoun badges are pretty pointless anyway.

It's not a thing, for an old school radical feminist like me. So no need to google and read some bullshit about innate gender roles.

I was recently introduced to the concept of "femalism" via those board which explained a lot about the outlook of some posters.

Woman = adult human female isn’t ideology pushing. It’s stating fact.

Considering you pop up and try and derail the majority of topics that surround this and the ideology that harms it. and you still don’t recognise this is quite concerning.

I just laughed out loud. Thanks!

I wouldn't care less if I saw someone wearing an adult human female pin. Internally I'd eyeroll, in the same was as I would if I saw a trans pin or pronouns badge.

I really don't think it's my place to have any opinion on someone's ideology as long as they are performing competently at work.

And I think you probably feel like most people.
But would that GP surgery have allowed the pin? That's really my point.
It seems as though anything "trans" related gets a free pass without any rigorous questioning.
I'm pretty sure that anything "adult human female" would have been shot down in flames, even though that is actually firmly rooted in biology and reality, unlike "pronoun" badges that signify the opposite in many cases.

🤣
When you can't play the ball, attack the player.

KJK has made "woman=adult human female" ideological with her antics. Anyone wearing that T-shirt I would perceive as being in the cult of personality and think they were at least a bit of a knob, and at most shared a lot of the kinds of wider views she promotes on twitter around Trump/Islam/moms for liberty/reform etc. That's why she's been harmful to the movement. Because lots of people feel the same.

Me joining a debate is not "popping up", unless you actively want an echo chamber. Actually I'm feeling like I have company now so my posts have at least illustrated there are some reasonable concerns about her.

Wow, that’s good to know!

Though I used to work in a sex offender unit. Our ‘customers’ included teachers, doctors, priests, you name it.

NOT calling all trans people sex offenders before the usual get hysterical.

I really don't think it's my place to have any opinion on someone's ideology as long as they are performing competently at work

Was served by a checkout worker earlier today and automatically thought of this thread and the fact they had purple hair and wearing several trans badges - first thought how some on here would react 😁
All I could think was cool hair lol, looked ace ♥️

You are speculating.

Also, if pronouns are important to that person, wearing a pronoun badge is am easy way to let people know. Like wearing a name badge.

Well so would most people I'd imagine. Not a fan of the colour purple myself but then most people aren't a public hate figure for trans people and a check out server doesn't have access to your personal medical records 🤷‍♀️.

An explainer on DBS checks for surgery staff.

https://www.cqc.org.uk/guidance-providers/gps/gp-mythbusters/gp-mythbuster-2-who-should-have-disclosure-barring-service-dbs-check

Even if you think KJK's actions are morally acceptable (they aren't) can her defenders really not see how politically unwise they are? The majority of people have little or no opinion or emotion about pronoun badges. To them this fuss about a badge would look insane.

Many people will now have a trans colleague in their workplaces and they'll be good/bad in the same proportion as non-trans employees. So when they see this sort of stuff they'll be thinking "that could be John or Bridget getting attacked for nothing other than being trans". How do you explain the problem with Mridul Wadhwa's appointment if you've convinced Joe Public that really you just hate trans people having jobs?

What we've got on this thread is similar to what we had in all those tedious pre-election threads about how Labour were going to lose. Just a complete refusal to accept your own bubble doesn't reflect reality.

KJK made that "slogan" (actually a definition from a dictionary) in response to the mantra "trans women are women", which is obviously nonsensical.
It was an attempt to bring reality back to the debate.
The fact that a simple definition garnered so much hatred is very telling.

It's also the reason why the "what is a woman?" question get's certain people's backs up.

Some facts cannot be bent to the will of the ideology and people don't like that.

I agree it has become more than a definition now and stands for the movement itself, but only because it caused such a ruckus when it first appeared on the sides of buses and billboards.

most people who saw those badges/jumper may do an internal eye roll but wouldn’t do anything. unless that person then decided to get abusive.

Come ON.
You really think in a doctors surgery that's about to ask all their staff to wear pronoun pins, that an "adult human female" pin would be allowed?

Please.