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KJK Live streams being sacked from her GPs surgery - trans staff member

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HootyMcBooby · 19/07/2024 17:15

Forward to 19.15 for the actual phone call.

KJK confrontation with trans staff member at her GPs surgery.

This ideology has no place in the NHS.
As someone whose Mother, aged 72, had a stroke and waited in an NHS corridor on a trolley for 16 hours only to be asked as the doctors FIRST question....... "how do you identify?", I feel the NHS is captured beyond hope,

I've had to leave my GP surgery due to an activist working there. #LWS #LetWomenSpeak #LWSLocals

This is the original #AdultHumanFemale channel and home of Kellie-Jay Keen aka Posie Parker.If you would like to donate to help support us, click here ⇨ http...

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Topofthemountain · 21/07/2024 17:08

CassieMaddox · 21/07/2024 16:27

The receptionist does not have "more power in the dynamic". They certainly didn't deserve to be aggressively questioned and sworn at for doing nothing.

Absolutely. The "they deserved it" is certainly notching up a gear.

quantumbutterfly · 21/07/2024 17:15

There has historically been an expectation that women should wheesht and that being strident and aggressive is a desirable characteristic in men but not women.
I posit that KJK has an almost masculine energy and is therefore broadening the bandwidth of what it means to be female so should be embraced by the positive affirmation crowd.

Alwaystired94 · 21/07/2024 17:16

quantumbutterfly · 21/07/2024 17:15

There has historically been an expectation that women should wheesht and that being strident and aggressive is a desirable characteristic in men but not women.
I posit that KJK has an almost masculine energy and is therefore broadening the bandwidth of what it means to be female so should be embraced by the positive affirmation crowd.

the only masculine energy she exhibits is aggression. HTH.

Omlettes · 21/07/2024 17:18

OldCrone · 21/07/2024 11:16

Never met her. I probably wouldn't like her much if I did. And I totally disagree with what she did in the doctor's surgery and the phone call.

I just think that attacking her husband's business is completely out of order. He's not responsible for her actions, and she's not responsible for what is on his business website.

If you want to complain about what she's doing, fine. But leave her family out of it. These sort of attacks affect her whole family, including her children.

Hey, if thats reference to my post, I didnt 'attack' his business, thats incredibly disengenious. I mentioned it because Im furious at her double standards the incredible hypocrisy of her rant at the staff given that, and of going after other GCs for not being hardline enough and creating schisms and settingGCers against each other.
I take it you saw her followers behaviour to Stella O'Malley and Andrew Doyle for not being pure enough ? And the hideous homophobia Andrew copped on X leading him to back off X and write a long piece about it?
Or the excruciating interview with Benjamin Boyce KJK and SOM where she acted like judge and jury to Stella in the most extraordinary way?

Or the schisms with Julie Bindel or JCJ? I vehemently defended KJK at the time against accusations of grifting much to my embarrassment now.
LWS is great and crucial, but her behaviour undermines the seriousness of the endeavour.
As to the overly fanatical defense of her on here, as others have said, its definitely cultlike behaviour.

saraclara · 21/07/2024 17:20

If KJK got upset I don’t blame her. Let’s be honest, the situation was intimidating for her

She's intimidated by a badge? She doesn't strike me as someone who's easily intimidated, to be honest. She saw the badge, and saw an opportunity. That's all there is to it.

BeachParty · 21/07/2024 17:34

Kellie Jay had cause to be particularly intimidated - and yet she was not silent! You may not like this quality, but it is the same quality that has provided encouragement and help to women everywhere to speak up.

By the sight of a badge? By a member of staff being trans?
They're just doing their job.
It's also pretty disgusting that some posters are automatically assuming that just because a member of staff is trans they're automatically a threat and won't do their jobs professionally.

Treaclewell · 21/07/2024 17:36

Well, I couldn't see the feed because when I clicked on the link the computer crashed, fixed on KJK's home page. Can't navigate it, close down the browser, open anything else. Override switching off - it looks as though it has, but when I switch on again, back to KJK. Ctrl/Alt/Del brings up the menu but won't let me select anything, so can't use task manager. Windows key- zilch. Esc key - not a thing. Fortunately I have more than one computer.
I think I'll have to take it into the computer guys to join my crashed hard drive. Drat. After I've made an appointment for emergency replacement of a filling. Battalions these are coming in.
Has anyone else had a problem with KJK's website?

CassieMaddox · 21/07/2024 17:40

quantumbutterfly · 21/07/2024 17:15

There has historically been an expectation that women should wheesht and that being strident and aggressive is a desirable characteristic in men but not women.
I posit that KJK has an almost masculine energy and is therefore broadening the bandwidth of what it means to be female so should be embraced by the positive affirmation crowd.

What a load of arse. Are you female?

There's no such thing as "masculine energy" and no need to "broaden the bandwidth of being a woman"

thistimelastweek · 21/07/2024 17:48

saraclara · 21/07/2024 17:20

If KJK got upset I don’t blame her. Let’s be honest, the situation was intimidating for her

She's intimidated by a badge? She doesn't strike me as someone who's easily intimidated, to be honest. She saw the badge, and saw an opportunity. That's all there is to it.

I couldn't agree more.
I could even believe that the sight of that badge just made her day.

Christinapple · 21/07/2024 17:48

"If KJK got upset I don’t blame her. Let’s be honest, the situation was intimidating for her"
"Kellie Jay had cause to be particularly intimidated "

I think we need a reminder what this is all about. KJK saw a pronoun badge and noticed a receptionist was trans. She made the decision to purposefully be the instigator and kick up a scene over this both in person and later via a phone call (which went online whether the staff liked or not). The surgery and trans staff member have been named online with KJK's followers saying they will complain.

Let's also consider the other patients at that surgery. There's going to be a big hold-up thanks to the staff having to deal with all the emails and phone calls they're receiving plus having to consider if there is any safety risk to their staff from all this.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 17:50

saraclara · 21/07/2024 17:20

If KJK got upset I don’t blame her. Let’s be honest, the situation was intimidating for her

She's intimidated by a badge? She doesn't strike me as someone who's easily intimidated, to be honest. She saw the badge, and saw an opportunity. That's all there is to it.

Why is your take on it the only right one?

As much as I'm not wanting to defend her I wouldn't say it's as simple as being intimidated by a badge. As a hate figure for TRA's, she most likely saw the pronoun wearing ally of such groups and acted the way she did as that person has access to her personal records and could send them to anyone and put her into defensive mode.

Whether the member of staff was the most professional, least harmful person in the world or one of the people who turn up to threaten her and others at her gigs (of which there are many), she wasn't to know (bit like we don't know which men are rotten or not).

Not saying that excuses her actions, but to attribute it to simply being intimidated by a little badge is..... naive.

Hoppinggreen · 21/07/2024 17:50

Gosh are we allowed to criticise KJK on here now?
I remember being destroyed for politely suggesting she had gone too far previously, while still broadly agreeing with her and praising her bravery.
Interesting to see that people are now seeing that their God(ess) has feet of clay.
Classic example of someone believing that they are greater than the cause.

Wumblewimble · 21/07/2024 17:51

This is how women get refused same sex treatment in refuges and counselling.
KJK has highlighted a problem with trans rights diminishing women's rights.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 17:52

Hoppinggreen · 21/07/2024 17:50

Gosh are we allowed to criticise KJK on here now?
I remember being destroyed for politely suggesting she had gone too far previously, while still broadly agreeing with her and praising her bravery.
Interesting to see that people are now seeing that their God(ess) has feet of clay.
Classic example of someone believing that they are greater than the cause.

Tell me you haven't read the whole thread without telling me you haven't read the whole thread.

She has been widely criticised. Unless you are calling for her to be burned at the stake then you will be scolded.

CassieMaddox · 21/07/2024 17:54

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 17:50

Why is your take on it the only right one?

As much as I'm not wanting to defend her I wouldn't say it's as simple as being intimidated by a badge. As a hate figure for TRA's, she most likely saw the pronoun wearing ally of such groups and acted the way she did as that person has access to her personal records and could send them to anyone and put her into defensive mode.

Whether the member of staff was the most professional, least harmful person in the world or one of the people who turn up to threaten her and others at her gigs (of which there are many), she wasn't to know (bit like we don't know which men are rotten or not).

Not saying that excuses her actions, but to attribute it to simply being intimidated by a little badge is..... naive.

There is no reason to think the trans receptionist would be any more likely to do this than anyone else. Why would they want to risk their job and make themselves far less employable by carrying out such an act of gross misconduct?

Let's not go getting carried away here.

CassieMaddox · 21/07/2024 17:55

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 17:52

Tell me you haven't read the whole thread without telling me you haven't read the whole thread.

She has been widely criticised. Unless you are calling for her to be burned at the stake then you will be scolded.

😂😂😂

quantumbutterfly · 21/07/2024 17:55

CassieMaddox · 21/07/2024 17:40

What a load of arse. Are you female?

There's no such thing as "masculine energy" and no need to "broaden the bandwidth of being a woman"

Are you?

Christinapple · 21/07/2024 17:56

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 17:50

Why is your take on it the only right one?

As much as I'm not wanting to defend her I wouldn't say it's as simple as being intimidated by a badge. As a hate figure for TRA's, she most likely saw the pronoun wearing ally of such groups and acted the way she did as that person has access to her personal records and could send them to anyone and put her into defensive mode.

Whether the member of staff was the most professional, least harmful person in the world or one of the people who turn up to threaten her and others at her gigs (of which there are many), she wasn't to know (bit like we don't know which men are rotten or not).

Not saying that excuses her actions, but to attribute it to simply being intimidated by a little badge is..... naive.

"acted the way she did as that person has access to her personal records"

I'm sure the trans receptionist was subject to a police-check and other checks the exact same as every other employee who applied for a job there. They obviously passed the interview and police checks same as anyone else so who is KJK to decide they aren't fit to do their job or who can't be trusted? This is all on KJK who has decided she has a problem with trans people, not the surgery or their staff.

Topofthemountain · 21/07/2024 17:57

Wumblewimble · 21/07/2024 17:51

This is how women get refused same sex treatment in refuges and counselling.
KJK has highlighted a problem with trans rights diminishing women's rights.

What, a right to employment? A right to not be verbally abused at work?

I would have hoped that (in the UK at least) these were pretty much universal rights.

WinkyMcFlapFace · 21/07/2024 17:57

House!

(Posters not in line with KJK FWR protocol are scolders)

BeachParty · 21/07/2024 17:57

As a hate figure for TRA's, she most likely saw the pronoun wearing ally of such groups and acted the way she did as that person has access to her personal records and could send them to anyone and put her into defensive mode

The receptionist isn't necessarily a "TRA" though.
Just someone who is trans. Just being trans/ wearing a badge doesn't make you an activist for goodness sake.
Doctors receptionists are bound by confidentiality laws. All doctors receptionists.
It's off to assume because you're trans you'll automatically " run to 4chan" or be a threat.
That's just pure discrimination.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 17:58

Christinapple · 21/07/2024 17:56

"acted the way she did as that person has access to her personal records"

I'm sure the trans receptionist was subject to a police-check and other checks the exact same as every other employee who applied for a job there. They obviously passed the interview and police checks same as anyone else so who is KJK to decide they aren't fit to do their job or who can't be trusted? This is all on KJK who has decided she has a problem with trans people, not the surgery or their staff.

Medical receptionists subject to police checks?! Come on now.

CassieMaddox · 21/07/2024 17:58

Yes. I'm also very straight talking and have spent my whole adult life working in male dominated industries.
Implying KJK is "broadening the bandwidth of being a woman" by being aggressive to the trabs receptionist and aggressive to the practice manager is just horse shit. And also regressive.

The fact you chose Alex Drummond language is interesting.

BeachParty · 21/07/2024 17:59

Cross posted with a few posters there!

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 21/07/2024 18:00

BeachParty · 21/07/2024 17:57

As a hate figure for TRA's, she most likely saw the pronoun wearing ally of such groups and acted the way she did as that person has access to her personal records and could send them to anyone and put her into defensive mode

The receptionist isn't necessarily a "TRA" though.
Just someone who is trans. Just being trans/ wearing a badge doesn't make you an activist for goodness sake.
Doctors receptionists are bound by confidentiality laws. All doctors receptionists.
It's off to assume because you're trans you'll automatically " run to 4chan" or be a threat.
That's just pure discrimination.

Edited

Well that’s what I said didn’t I. She might be, she might not be. There are loads who turn up to let LWS to cause trouble, I’m sure a few have ‘respectable’ jobs.

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