KJK Live streams being sacked from her GPs surgery - trans staff member

[HootyMcBooby]

Forward to 19.15 for the actual phone call.

KJK confrontation with trans staff member at her GPs surgery.

This ideology has no place in the NHS.
As someone whose Mother, aged 72, had a stroke and waited in an NHS corridor on a trolley for 16 hours only to be asked as the doctors FIRST question....... "how do you identify?", I feel the NHS is captured beyond hope,

I haven't seen any criticism of LWS, it's mainly been of KJK.

no she’s hated for being hateful. many GC women manage to do activism without becoming the problem.

Maybe don’t quote a specific poster and use “you” as the target in your posts then. Just a thought.

Don't comment on things you don’t understand, or if you haven’t read the thread properly. I didn’t think I had to point out the generic ‘you’ when responding to a specific point but clearly I should’ve.

In all the footage of LWS there seems to be a lot of aggression towards all participants not just KJK.
Seeing the silencing tactics has helped to peak me.
She's angry and ranty, more than she used to be from what I've seen.
I think her anger is justified, as was Elaine Miller's in the Scottish parliament.
I think her rhetoric is unhelpful to her or her cause, she's too ranty.

Your ongoing hostility and playground insults (and I do mean this to you Wes, not a general you) are really uncalled for.

Damn those non-specific pronouns.

Not many people are defending her actions at her GP's surgery.

Have you read your own posts?! If I could be arsed I’d go back and quote them to you. What playground insults? Fuck me the comprehension skills (or lack of) in the crap attempt to point score is pathetic.

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There is a huge difference! If people’s personal circumstances affect policy making then it is of legitimate public interest, but no one is trying to cancel relatives.

You, in contrast, are trying to attack the LIVELIHOOD OF A FAMILY MEMBER. You do not seem to realise the era when you could cancel and destroy livelihoods is coming to an end? Nonetheless, attacking the financial wellbeing of a family member is a new low.

If KJK got upset I don’t blame her. Let’s be honest, the situation was intimidating for her. Most clinicians do not wear symbols that could indicate their ideological views in clinical situations, as they can be upsetting for an already vulnerable patient. In KJK’s case, she has particular reason to be uncomfortable/distressed in the situation. She is the target of Transgender activists and GP surgeries have access to confidential files. Even the most upstanding members of society don’t like having their medical records released (for example in the recent high profile case where this happened).

I think the GP practice needs to consider how to treat patients in a more respectful manner. Promoting a contentious cause (e.g. wearing unnecessary symbols) in a clinical situation is unprofessional. As much as anything it derails the consultation and increases the risk of error.

you should ‘blame her’. she decided to abuse and harass a member of staff for no reason leading to the practice manager getting involved.

if she cared so much about her own families potential need for a medical appointment, why decide that abusing staff was the most important thing in that moment?

there is no other way around it, she abused a member of staff. if the situation was reversed you’d all be crying about how disgusting it was that a nasty TRA wouldn’t allow a GC to have a job in peace etc.

Stop shouting. I've said NOTHING ABOUT HER FAMILY MEMBER! Merely commented on the double standard.

It is no interest to me that her husband runs a trans inclusive business. I already thought she was a grifter who says things for clicks, and someone who is very much "do as I say, not as I do".

The "clinician" was not wearing the symbol. The receptionist was and KJK decided to have a go at her for it. Awful behaviour, can't believe you would defend it.

She is the target of Transgender activists and GP surgeries have access to confidential files.

In other words, she thinks because a staff member is trans they won't do their job professionally.

That receptionist probably isn't overly enamoured of KJK, just as I'm sure every doctor's surgery has a few patients not much liked by the staff. You can't just assume someone won't do their job based on no evidence whatsoever and the practice manager was absolutely right to defend their staff.

10000% this.

the receptionist was just trying to go about their day. i’ve seen many posters on this board claim they ‘don’t hate trans, they are welcome to live their life’ so then let them live their life.

KJK is incapable of that because she is nothing but hateful. hateful grifter. the fact some can’t see how disgusting the situation she created would be laughable if it wasn’t disgusting.

Generally when patients attend a GP surgery, they have less power in the dynamic. They are dependent on the staff to get access to their medical treatment. Most people are too sick or too desperate to object to provocative displays by staff members even though it is often unsettling or distressing. But not Kellie-Jay! You may not like it, but, as always with Kellie-Jay, she has drawn attention to an important issue.

Have you no understanding of how intimidating such situations are to patients? Most patients are too constrained by medical or financial needs to be able to object. Kellie Jay had cause to be particularly intimidated - and yet she was not silent! You may not like this quality, but it is the same quality that has provided encouragement and help to women everywhere to speak up.

It is wrong for clinicians or associated staff to take advantage of the greater power in the patient dynamic to enforce a contentious ideology. Staff are there to do a job and not cause additional distress. Dress and behaviour should not include provocative, contentious, unnecessary symbols that impede or prevent a therapeutic interaction.

you have a clear need to feel a victim for something that isn’t there.
this is honestly embarrassing.

and they say Trans Ideology is a cult they need to look in a mirror while they say these things.

The receptionist does not have "more power in the dynamic". They certainly didn't deserve to be aggressively questioned and sworn at for doing nothing.

Waaah. You broke my irony meter.

Can't read your post, my irony meter is broken.

clearly so is your ‘being an adult’ meter so maybe leave important discussions to those with a functioning one.

I think your adult meter is broken.

I don't see someone of a particular minority - in this case, a gender minority - and assume criminality.

I see a human and consider that they might be willing to commit a crime. This applies regardless of what group they are in. The only difference I make based on group membership is that I regard men as more likely to commit a sexual or violent offence than women. I'm not singling out trans people, Black people, or any other minority when considering that someone might be willing to commit a crime.

This refusal to completely trust anyone is at the heart of common child safeguarding procedures, such as never leaving a child with just one adult, and is in no way a bad way to think.

When I am faced with someone who has access to my medical records and also is broadcasting via a pronoun badge a political view that indicates that they may be hostile to me, I am going to risk assess that person accordingly, starting with my belief that no one is completely trustworthy. I'm not going to risk assess the checkout assistant at Tesco's with a pronoun badge in the same way because that assistant doesn't have access to my medical records.

We already know from Emma Healey and Luna Spain that TRAs will risk their jobs to take a pop at the "TERFs". The damage that someone with access to my medical records could do to me is considerable.

Yes they do. They can publish my medical records to 4chan. I cannot return the favour.

That doesn't justify KJK's behaviour but it would justify her wanting to change GP.