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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

KJK Live streams being sacked from her GPs surgery - trans staff member

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HootyMcBooby · 19/07/2024 17:15

Forward to 19.15 for the actual phone call.

KJK confrontation with trans staff member at her GPs surgery.

This ideology has no place in the NHS.
As someone whose Mother, aged 72, had a stroke and waited in an NHS corridor on a trolley for 16 hours only to be asked as the doctors FIRST question....... "how do you identify?", I feel the NHS is captured beyond hope,

I've had to leave my GP surgery due to an activist working there. #LWS #LetWomenSpeak #LWSLocals

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Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:10

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 19:00

i can imagine.

i hate scammers with a passion. how did you come to find out about this specifically?

I was reading X beginning of this year and saw a tra post screenshots along with the DM link. I initially thought it was the usual bullshit, but I read the article and then went on his website where you can find the quotes.I'm not on X anymore and frankly the whole thing disgusted me. I bring it up here because people are accusing her of being a Nazi,while ignoring or not seeing, the more prosaic and seedy reality.
Its a common issue these days , we go for the most dramatic take rather than the Occams razor under our noses.

Wumblewimble · 20/07/2024 19:10

BreadInCaptivity · 20/07/2024 18:44

KJK makes many people, even those with GC beliefs uncomfortable at times.

She is utterly uncompromising on this issue.

I think in part many GC people are still frightened about being perceived as transphobic and being the "bad" person.

As such her approaches can make us uncomfortable because she goes further than many of us would feel able to.

She says what some people think is unsayable or in a way that pulls no punches.

FWIW I don't want ideological/activist marketing in the workplace. Any workplace. That includes pronouns. All any of us need is a name badge and a job title. That's it.

She questions the employability of people who bring that activism to work. I think that's valid when we look at recent tribunals especially ERCC.

Equality is important to me and I think the over dominance of Pride and "the T" is contrary to that. It gets far too much air and HR time and investment at the expense of disability rights, sex based rights and race and ethnicity as examples.

Declare a gender identity at work and people are falling over to accommodate you even at the expense of the law and other workers (see the nurses expected to get changed with a man). Rainbow crossings that cannot be used by people with a visual impairment to demonstrate allyship are another.

I'm fed up with it. It's not transphobic to want a level playing field for all. For HR to start questioning and addressing the lack of black people or those with a disability in senior positions or why in the social care sector which is 80% female, senior managers are massively disproportionately male.

She cuts so close to the bone it hurts, but my god has she been effective in getting this issue in the sunlight.

Totally agree with this post

FrippEnos · 20/07/2024 19:11

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 19:09

Ignoring, or just not interested?

Its a spectacularly bias article.

Wumblewimble · 20/07/2024 19:11

I'm so pleased I've given her my support, she speaks for those women who have been silenced by the abusive trans lobby

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 19:17

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:10

I was reading X beginning of this year and saw a tra post screenshots along with the DM link. I initially thought it was the usual bullshit, but I read the article and then went on his website where you can find the quotes.I'm not on X anymore and frankly the whole thing disgusted me. I bring it up here because people are accusing her of being a Nazi,while ignoring or not seeing, the more prosaic and seedy reality.
Its a common issue these days , we go for the most dramatic take rather than the Occams razor under our noses.

i’d say both can be true. she can be a scammer but also voice some nasty bigoted crap whether or not she actually believes them i don’t know.

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:18

FrippEnos · 20/07/2024 19:09

@Omlettes

So in effect she is financially supported by a tra supporter

A bit of a stretch

She has admitted multiple times that her husband supports her. His business - he set it up- his company position.
Have you forgotten her Ultra position so easily or attacks on others not sufficiently so?
Such double standards when it suits, thats tribalism, no matter Tra or GC. And all those women who she has encouraged to be Ultra, did she tell them?

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:20

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 19:17

i’d say both can be true. she can be a scammer but also voice some nasty bigoted crap whether or not she actually believes them i don’t know.

True, but I'd also say an opportunist is essentially a weathervane.

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:27

NoWordForFluffy · 20/07/2024 18:44

Being supportive of transpeople isn't actually the same as supporting TRAs though, is it?

Not all transpeople are activists in the same way as not all TRAs are trans.

Thats true.
But why are you shifting the goalposts re Keen when she has preached GC Ultra loudly and endlessly and taken donations on that basis, and stirred up her followers against other GCers for not being ultra enough?
Thats just glaring double standards.
If say Julie Bindel or Stella OMalley was married to a tra supporter we would have never heard an end to it , and Im pretty sure you know that.

NoWordForFluffy · 20/07/2024 19:29

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:27

Thats true.
But why are you shifting the goalposts re Keen when she has preached GC Ultra loudly and endlessly and taken donations on that basis, and stirred up her followers against other GCers for not being ultra enough?
Thats just glaring double standards.
If say Julie Bindel or Stella OMalley was married to a tra supporter we would have never heard an end to it , and Im pretty sure you know that.

There you go again. TRA supporter. Who says he's a TRA supporter?

And actually, no I personally haven't shifted any goalposts. So you can stick your false allegations, ta.

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 19:29

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:27

Thats true.
But why are you shifting the goalposts re Keen when she has preached GC Ultra loudly and endlessly and taken donations on that basis, and stirred up her followers against other GCers for not being ultra enough?
Thats just glaring double standards.
If say Julie Bindel or Stella OMalley was married to a tra supporter we would have never heard an end to it , and Im pretty sure you know that.

also what about those of us who have been accused of being TRA for calling out actual transphobia on here??

im told i support paedos for that crap. insanity.

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:33

NoWordForFluffy · 20/07/2024 19:29

There you go again. TRA supporter. Who says he's a TRA supporter?

And actually, no I personally haven't shifted any goalposts. So you can stick your false allegations, ta.

His website 🙄

NoWordForFluffy · 20/07/2024 19:36

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:33

His website 🙄

TRAs are Trans Rights Activists. His website says he supports the trans community. As I pointed out before, not all transpeople are TRAs and not all TRAs are trans.

Which specific, named, TRAs does his website support?

Or do you not understand that there's often a difference between transpeople and TRAs?

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:36

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 19:29

also what about those of us who have been accused of being TRA for calling out actual transphobia on here??

im told i support paedos for that crap. insanity.

Yes I get that.
No room for nuance, except when defending ones particular Guru. In which case any and every discrepancy and inconsistency can be justified.

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:38

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 19:10

not interested isn’t a flex

There you have it. Not interested in reality, where have we seen that before?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 19:40

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:38

There you have it. Not interested in reality, where have we seen that before?

Erm, trans ideology and everyone who believes in it 😂

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:40

NoWordForFluffy · 20/07/2024 19:36

TRAs are Trans Rights Activists. His website says he supports the trans community. As I pointed out before, not all transpeople are TRAs and not all TRAs are trans.

Which specific, named, TRAs does his website support?

Or do you not understand that there's often a difference between transpeople and TRAs?

Why yes I do, and I also understand hypocrisy and double standards and the willingness to defend ones hero no matter the dishonesty.
Ultra for thee.. not for her

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:42

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 19:40

Erm, trans ideology and everyone who believes in it 😂

BINGO!

NoWordForFluffy · 20/07/2024 19:43

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:40

Why yes I do, and I also understand hypocrisy and double standards and the willingness to defend ones hero no matter the dishonesty.
Ultra for thee.. not for her

I'm not defending anyone, just clarifying whether you're being truthful or not.

Seeing as you've not said which specific TRAs are supported, I'm guessing you're not.

Please point out MY double standards, seeing as you've implied they exist. Happy to wait for quotes.

Hepwo · 20/07/2024 19:46

Halfway through the thread now, are the ranters going to get it to the end?

Are we taking bets on the finish time?

BeachParty · 20/07/2024 19:50

Ranters 😂🙄

AlisonDonut · 20/07/2024 19:52

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:18

She has admitted multiple times that her husband supports her. His business - he set it up- his company position.
Have you forgotten her Ultra position so easily or attacks on others not sufficiently so?
Such double standards when it suits, thats tribalism, no matter Tra or GC. And all those women who she has encouraged to be Ultra, did she tell them?

A husband supporting his wife?

The horror, the horror.

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:55

NoWordForFluffy · 20/07/2024 19:43

I'm not defending anyone, just clarifying whether you're being truthful or not.

Seeing as you've not said which specific TRAs are supported, I'm guessing you're not.

Please point out MY double standards, seeing as you've implied they exist. Happy to wait for quotes.

The links are there for you to both the DM article and his website. You are anally fixating on the term tra supportive when you know PRECISELY what I mean by that, particularly in reference to her ongoing Ultra stance.
You are now arguing in bad faith, to what end Im not sure, but you argue like a tra intentionally missing the point, so I wont bother responding to you again, because your 'point' such as it is, is entirely pointless.

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:55

Hepwo · 20/07/2024 19:46

Halfway through the thread now, are the ranters going to get it to the end?

Are we taking bets on the finish time?

lol

BeachParty · 20/07/2024 19:56

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:55

lol

Got to laugh really, it's so pathetic 😂

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:58

AlisonDonut · 20/07/2024 19:52

A husband supporting his wife?

The horror, the horror.

Now that is the most disengenious response yet.
Its not that he supports her, and you know that very well!
Its the damn hypocrisy and double standards between her stated position and reality.
give your head a shake.

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