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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

KJK Live streams being sacked from her GPs surgery - trans staff member

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HootyMcBooby · 19/07/2024 17:15

Forward to 19.15 for the actual phone call.

KJK confrontation with trans staff member at her GPs surgery.

This ideology has no place in the NHS.
As someone whose Mother, aged 72, had a stroke and waited in an NHS corridor on a trolley for 16 hours only to be asked as the doctors FIRST question....... "how do you identify?", I feel the NHS is captured beyond hope,

I've had to leave my GP surgery due to an activist working there. #LWS #LetWomenSpeak #LWSLocals

This is the original #AdultHumanFemale channel and home of Kellie-Jay Keen aka Posie Parker.If you would like to donate to help support us, click here ⇨ http...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfiFJ4nbHUk

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AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 18:31

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:30

you mean the one that gets next to 0 traffic? and is for chat rather than discussions?

Start some topics then. Each board involves discussion does it not 😐

HawthornHedges · 20/07/2024 18:32

Do you think she is drunk when she makes these videos? She’s so amped up and comes across slightly deranged. Trying to figure it out..?

Hepwo · 20/07/2024 18:33

Wow this thread attracted the angry haters.

FWIW you have to believe in the whole "trans" thing to think there is a phobia.

OP was appalled that her elderly relative got asked about identity in a difficult situation using the NHS.
Trans is now synonymous with angry haters and this thread is a typical example of it's advocates. If we're going to get this insanity imposed on us do expect people to react.

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:35

Hepwo · 20/07/2024 18:33

Wow this thread attracted the angry haters.

FWIW you have to believe in the whole "trans" thing to think there is a phobia.

OP was appalled that her elderly relative got asked about identity in a difficult situation using the NHS.
Trans is now synonymous with angry haters and this thread is a typical example of it's advocates. If we're going to get this insanity imposed on us do expect people to react.

yes because the people angry about KJK are the ones in the wrong here… right.

many GC people think she’s a hateful twat.

Hepwo · 20/07/2024 18:37

I don't really care about people with labels and their tribalist thoughts thanks.

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 18:39

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:16

what i meant was i’d never had a reason to look into him so wasn’t aware of anything.

Ok, but doxxing is a very serious accusation to be tossing around. Nor is it doxxing when it was in the Daily Mail on an article about her.

"Ms Keen's husband, Ryan Minshull, who also goes by Max Ford, runs events company Digilive, which often posts pro-LGBTIQA+ posts to its Instagram page.
The company's website also has a diversity statement where they claim to 'foster a diverse and inclusive culture in which people with all experiences, families, and cultures can thrive'.
It adds: 'We recognise the struggle for equality for those in the global LGBTQA+ community and celebrate their steps toward this goal over the last fifty years.''
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11883261/How-transphobe-Kellie-Jay-Keen-aka-Posie-Parker-caused-controversy-Australian-tour.html

So in effect she is financially supported by a tra supporter whilst taking donations from women whom she pressures to be 'Ultra' and simultaneously marshalling her fans against any GCs she says arent Ultra enough, eg Stella OMalley etc.
To me that is far more serious and pertinent than the bogus claims that she is a nazi.

How Kellie-Jay Keen has caused controversy in Australia

The British anti-trans activist, 48 - who has been supported by JK Rowling - has faced criticism from LGBTIQA+ and feminist groups after Nazis attended her Melbourne rally.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11883261/How-transphobe-Kellie-Jay-Keen-aka-Posie-Parker-caused-controversy-Australian-tour.html

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:39

Hepwo · 20/07/2024 18:37

I don't really care about people with labels and their tribalist thoughts thanks.

that’s handy isn’t it?

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:39

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 18:39

Ok, but doxxing is a very serious accusation to be tossing around. Nor is it doxxing when it was in the Daily Mail on an article about her.

"Ms Keen's husband, Ryan Minshull, who also goes by Max Ford, runs events company Digilive, which often posts pro-LGBTIQA+ posts to its Instagram page.
The company's website also has a diversity statement where they claim to 'foster a diverse and inclusive culture in which people with all experiences, families, and cultures can thrive'.
It adds: 'We recognise the struggle for equality for those in the global LGBTQA+ community and celebrate their steps toward this goal over the last fifty years.''
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11883261/How-transphobe-Kellie-Jay-Keen-aka-Posie-Parker-caused-controversy-Australian-tour.html

So in effect she is financially supported by a tra supporter whilst taking donations from women whom she pressures to be 'Ultra' and simultaneously marshalling her fans against any GCs she says arent Ultra enough, eg Stella OMalley etc.
To me that is far more serious and pertinent than the bogus claims that she is a nazi.

apologies, i wasn’t aware he was ‘anybody’ so thought doxxing. i take that back!

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:41

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 18:39

Ok, but doxxing is a very serious accusation to be tossing around. Nor is it doxxing when it was in the Daily Mail on an article about her.

"Ms Keen's husband, Ryan Minshull, who also goes by Max Ford, runs events company Digilive, which often posts pro-LGBTIQA+ posts to its Instagram page.
The company's website also has a diversity statement where they claim to 'foster a diverse and inclusive culture in which people with all experiences, families, and cultures can thrive'.
It adds: 'We recognise the struggle for equality for those in the global LGBTQA+ community and celebrate their steps toward this goal over the last fifty years.''
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11883261/How-transphobe-Kellie-Jay-Keen-aka-Posie-Parker-caused-controversy-Australian-tour.html

So in effect she is financially supported by a tra supporter whilst taking donations from women whom she pressures to be 'Ultra' and simultaneously marshalling her fans against any GCs she says arent Ultra enough, eg Stella OMalley etc.
To me that is far more serious and pertinent than the bogus claims that she is a nazi.

but yeah that is actually ridiculous.

do as i say not as i do. pushing other women to potentially lose their jobs to be ‘ultra’ enough when she isn’t standing by those same beliefs is wild.

NoWordForFluffy · 20/07/2024 18:44

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 18:39

Ok, but doxxing is a very serious accusation to be tossing around. Nor is it doxxing when it was in the Daily Mail on an article about her.

"Ms Keen's husband, Ryan Minshull, who also goes by Max Ford, runs events company Digilive, which often posts pro-LGBTIQA+ posts to its Instagram page.
The company's website also has a diversity statement where they claim to 'foster a diverse and inclusive culture in which people with all experiences, families, and cultures can thrive'.
It adds: 'We recognise the struggle for equality for those in the global LGBTQA+ community and celebrate their steps toward this goal over the last fifty years.''
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11883261/How-transphobe-Kellie-Jay-Keen-aka-Posie-Parker-caused-controversy-Australian-tour.html

So in effect she is financially supported by a tra supporter whilst taking donations from women whom she pressures to be 'Ultra' and simultaneously marshalling her fans against any GCs she says arent Ultra enough, eg Stella OMalley etc.
To me that is far more serious and pertinent than the bogus claims that she is a nazi.

Being supportive of transpeople isn't actually the same as supporting TRAs though, is it?

Not all transpeople are activists in the same way as not all TRAs are trans.

BreadInCaptivity · 20/07/2024 18:44

KJK makes many people, even those with GC beliefs uncomfortable at times.

She is utterly uncompromising on this issue.

I think in part many GC people are still frightened about being perceived as transphobic and being the "bad" person.

As such her approaches can make us uncomfortable because she goes further than many of us would feel able to.

She says what some people think is unsayable or in a way that pulls no punches.

FWIW I don't want ideological/activist marketing in the workplace. Any workplace. That includes pronouns. All any of us need is a name badge and a job title. That's it.

She questions the employability of people who bring that activism to work. I think that's valid when we look at recent tribunals especially ERCC.

Equality is important to me and I think the over dominance of Pride and "the T" is contrary to that. It gets far too much air and HR time and investment at the expense of disability rights, sex based rights and race and ethnicity as examples.

Declare a gender identity at work and people are falling over to accommodate you even at the expense of the law and other workers (see the nurses expected to get changed with a man). Rainbow crossings that cannot be used by people with a visual impairment to demonstrate allyship are another.

I'm fed up with it. It's not transphobic to want a level playing field for all. For HR to start questioning and addressing the lack of black people or those with a disability in senior positions or why in the social care sector which is 80% female, senior managers are massively disproportionately male.

She cuts so close to the bone it hurts, but my god has she been effective in getting this issue in the sunlight.

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 18:49

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:41

but yeah that is actually ridiculous.

do as i say not as i do. pushing other women to potentially lose their jobs to be ‘ultra’ enough when she isn’t standing by those same beliefs is wild.

Apology accepted and yeah it is wild, but what is even wilder is that none of us bothered to reseach her before giving her money.
I only found out by accident, and while I had lots of misgivings at her behaviour I got angry with Jane Clair Jones for calling her a fraud years ago, and defended her.
I feel deeply embarassed about that now and will be writing to JCJ to apologise and say she was right. Also Julie Bindel.

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:50

BreadInCaptivity · 20/07/2024 18:44

KJK makes many people, even those with GC beliefs uncomfortable at times.

She is utterly uncompromising on this issue.

I think in part many GC people are still frightened about being perceived as transphobic and being the "bad" person.

As such her approaches can make us uncomfortable because she goes further than many of us would feel able to.

She says what some people think is unsayable or in a way that pulls no punches.

FWIW I don't want ideological/activist marketing in the workplace. Any workplace. That includes pronouns. All any of us need is a name badge and a job title. That's it.

She questions the employability of people who bring that activism to work. I think that's valid when we look at recent tribunals especially ERCC.

Equality is important to me and I think the over dominance of Pride and "the T" is contrary to that. It gets far too much air and HR time and investment at the expense of disability rights, sex based rights and race and ethnicity as examples.

Declare a gender identity at work and people are falling over to accommodate you even at the expense of the law and other workers (see the nurses expected to get changed with a man). Rainbow crossings that cannot be used by people with a visual impairment to demonstrate allyship are another.

I'm fed up with it. It's not transphobic to want a level playing field for all. For HR to start questioning and addressing the lack of black people or those with a disability in senior positions or why in the social care sector which is 80% female, senior managers are massively disproportionately male.

She cuts so close to the bone it hurts, but my god has she been effective in getting this issue in the sunlight.

no, she has said that everyone should be able to not hire someone who is trans cos they are all lazy.

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:51

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 18:49

Apology accepted and yeah it is wild, but what is even wilder is that none of us bothered to reseach her before giving her money.
I only found out by accident, and while I had lots of misgivings at her behaviour I got angry with Jane Clair Jones for calling her a fraud years ago, and defended her.
I feel deeply embarassed about that now and will be writing to JCJ to apologise and say she was right. Also Julie Bindel.

i have thankfully never given her money as always found her to be very aggressive even before the current iteration.

im glad you have the clarity now and i’m sorry you were scammed out of money, that’s never ok.

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 18:55

BreadInCaptivity · 20/07/2024 18:44

KJK makes many people, even those with GC beliefs uncomfortable at times.

She is utterly uncompromising on this issue.

I think in part many GC people are still frightened about being perceived as transphobic and being the "bad" person.

As such her approaches can make us uncomfortable because she goes further than many of us would feel able to.

She says what some people think is unsayable or in a way that pulls no punches.

FWIW I don't want ideological/activist marketing in the workplace. Any workplace. That includes pronouns. All any of us need is a name badge and a job title. That's it.

She questions the employability of people who bring that activism to work. I think that's valid when we look at recent tribunals especially ERCC.

Equality is important to me and I think the over dominance of Pride and "the T" is contrary to that. It gets far too much air and HR time and investment at the expense of disability rights, sex based rights and race and ethnicity as examples.

Declare a gender identity at work and people are falling over to accommodate you even at the expense of the law and other workers (see the nurses expected to get changed with a man). Rainbow crossings that cannot be used by people with a visual impairment to demonstrate allyship are another.

I'm fed up with it. It's not transphobic to want a level playing field for all. For HR to start questioning and addressing the lack of black people or those with a disability in senior positions or why in the social care sector which is 80% female, senior managers are massively disproportionately male.

She cuts so close to the bone it hurts, but my god has she been effective in getting this issue in the sunlight.

Utterly uncompromising you say? But not with herself it turns out.
"Ms Keen's husband, Ryan Minshull, who also goes by Max Ford, runs events company Digilive, which often posts pro-LGBTIQA+ posts to its Instagram page.
The company's website also has a diversity statement where they claim to 'foster a diverse and inclusive culture in which people with all experiences, families, and cultures can thrive'.
It adds: 'We recognise the struggle for equality for those in the global LGBTQA+ community and celebrate their steps toward this goal over the last fifty years.''
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11883261/How-transphobe-Kellie-Jay-Keen-aka-Posie-Parker-caused-controversy-Australian-tour.html

How Kellie-Jay Keen has caused controversy in Australia

The British anti-trans activist, 48 - who has been supported by JK Rowling - has faced criticism from LGBTIQA+ and feminist groups after Nazis attended her Melbourne rally.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11883261/How-transphobe-Kellie-Jay-Keen-aka-Posie-Parker-caused-controversy-Australian-tour.html

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:56

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 18:55

Utterly uncompromising you say? But not with herself it turns out.
"Ms Keen's husband, Ryan Minshull, who also goes by Max Ford, runs events company Digilive, which often posts pro-LGBTIQA+ posts to its Instagram page.
The company's website also has a diversity statement where they claim to 'foster a diverse and inclusive culture in which people with all experiences, families, and cultures can thrive'.
It adds: 'We recognise the struggle for equality for those in the global LGBTQA+ community and celebrate their steps toward this goal over the last fifty years.''
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11883261/How-transphobe-Kellie-Jay-Keen-aka-Posie-Parker-caused-controversy-Australian-tour.html

i love how you keep sending this to each person ignoring it 😂

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 18:59

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:51

i have thankfully never given her money as always found her to be very aggressive even before the current iteration.

im glad you have the clarity now and i’m sorry you were scammed out of money, that’s never ok.

Im ok I paid only a small amount,others far more. Its not just the money though
its the industrial scale lying and divisiveness and reputational loss for GCs

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 19:00

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 18:59

Im ok I paid only a small amount,others far more. Its not just the money though
its the industrial scale lying and divisiveness and reputational loss for GCs

i can imagine.

i hate scammers with a passion. how did you come to find out about this specifically?

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 19:01

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:56

i love how you keep sending this to each person ignoring it 😂

Well only just now because I cant believe they can keep maintaining her 'Ultra' position.🙄

WinkyMcFlapFace · 20/07/2024 19:03

@BreadInCaptivity
”She questions the employability of people who bring that activism to work. I think that's valid when we look at recent tribunals especially ERCC.”

What she has actually said, more than once, is that businesses should not employ trans or non binary people, and that landlords should not rent housing to them.

Not activists.

Trans and non binary people, in general, as a group.

She literally advocates for employment and housing discrimination against a group of people based on a shared characteristic.

That’s hostility and prejudice towards trans people - aka transphobia - it’s not “valid” and just now and again it would be a relief to see this board acknowledge that instead of minimising, denial, spurious demands for evidence, and attacking the ones who do stick their hand up and say it’s not OK.

OldCrone · 20/07/2024 19:06

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:30

you mean the one that gets next to 0 traffic? and is for chat rather than discussions?

It's the one which was set up for people like you who didn't want to discuss the impact of genderism on women and children.

They complained (like you) that they wanted to discuss other feminist topics.

It turned out they didn't really have anything to discuss.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 19:08

OldCrone · 20/07/2024 19:06

It's the one which was set up for people like you who didn't want to discuss the impact of genderism on women and children.

They complained (like you) that they wanted to discuss other feminist topics.

It turned out they didn't really have anything to discuss.

And still flock to this board, the one they profess to hate to shout women down for wanting to discuss aspects of women’s rights.

FrippEnos · 20/07/2024 19:09

@Omlettes

So in effect she is financially supported by a tra supporter

A bit of a stretch

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 19:09

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:56

i love how you keep sending this to each person ignoring it 😂

Ignoring, or just not interested?

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 19:10

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 19:09

Ignoring, or just not interested?

not interested isn’t a flex

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