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KJK Live streams being sacked from her GPs surgery - trans staff member

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HootyMcBooby · 19/07/2024 17:15

Forward to 19.15 for the actual phone call.

KJK confrontation with trans staff member at her GPs surgery.

This ideology has no place in the NHS.
As someone whose Mother, aged 72, had a stroke and waited in an NHS corridor on a trolley for 16 hours only to be asked as the doctors FIRST question....... "how do you identify?", I feel the NHS is captured beyond hope,

I've had to leave my GP surgery due to an activist working there. #LWS #LetWomenSpeak #LWSLocals

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfiFJ4nbHUk

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Portakalkedi · 20/07/2024 17:46

Why are people calling it transphobia if a person refuses to have words put in their mouth which go against the evidence of biology? I find this compelled speech offensive, as is being referred to a a 'cis' woman. The word cis is redundant and meaningless by implying that women are part of a 'class' of women, which is of course nonsensical bollocks.

WinkyMcFlapFace · 20/07/2024 17:49

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 17:43

You don’t have to feel sorry or sad for me. I don’t care. I know no one can change sex. It’s them I feel sorry for. Can you really talk about comprehension without any hint of irony?!

I, and may others, don’t think trans people are unemployable baddies who are a threat to children. I do think many men are though, no matter how they identify. What were you saying about stretching?

Transphobia is just a meaningless buzz word now. Not believing men can become women and vice versa is considered transphobia. It’s boring.

Yet here you are, defending KJK who does think trans people should not be employed, or housed, or have children.

Transphobia as a concept and source of harm doesn’t get washed away just because you and others refuse to see it when it’s plastered in front of you shaped like KJK

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 17:54

Portakalkedi · 20/07/2024 17:46

Why are people calling it transphobia if a person refuses to have words put in their mouth which go against the evidence of biology? I find this compelled speech offensive, as is being referred to a a 'cis' woman. The word cis is redundant and meaningless by implying that women are part of a 'class' of women, which is of course nonsensical bollocks.

because she was being abusive to a staff member because they have a badge on showing their pronouns. she didn’t need to use them in the conversation obviously but decided to fuck around and now she’s found out.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 17:58

WinkyMcFlapFace · 20/07/2024 17:49

Yet here you are, defending KJK who does think trans people should not be employed, or housed, or have children.

Transphobia as a concept and source of harm doesn’t get washed away just because you and others refuse to see it when it’s plastered in front of you shaped like KJK

Where have I defended her? I just said she was a rude twat. I’m answering points as they are put.

I’ve asked for examples of how is ‘far right’ and islamophobic as one poster claimed and I got a short video of her talking about specific
court cases. Where has she said trans people
should not be employed, housed or have children? Looking forward to being able to address that once the evidence is given.

BeachParty · 20/07/2024 17:59

AlisonDonut · 20/07/2024 17:33

The receiptionist wasn't trans.

I don't blame her for being petrified of her and her family's medical records potentially being seen by an activist. I'd not have handed over the letter and would have handled it differently but this struggle session to 'condem her' is pathetic.

Yes the receptionist is trans 😕
KJ Posy said so.
"Activist" is just a meaningless word now.
You're now an activist just by being trans in public/going to work and doing your job?!
Ridiculous.

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 18:01

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 16:47

because i also don’t agree with anyone doxxing others. that’s the reason.

I'm not 'doxxing' anyone,
its no more doxxing than you saying people she hangs out with are Neo nazis-.
If he was a neo nazi publicly youd call it out in a shot.

Pourquoise · 20/07/2024 18:04

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 17:58

Where have I defended her? I just said she was a rude twat. I’m answering points as they are put.

I’ve asked for examples of how is ‘far right’ and islamophobic as one poster claimed and I got a short video of her talking about specific
court cases. Where has she said trans people
should not be employed, housed or have children? Looking forward to being able to address that once the evidence is given.

Where has she said trans people
should not be employed, housed or have children? Looking forward to being able to address that once the evidence is given.

WinkyMcFlapFace · 20/07/2024 18:12

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 17:58

Where have I defended her? I just said she was a rude twat. I’m answering points as they are put.

I’ve asked for examples of how is ‘far right’ and islamophobic as one poster claimed and I got a short video of her talking about specific
court cases. Where has she said trans people
should not be employed, housed or have children? Looking forward to being able to address that once the evidence is given.

Do your own homework.

It’s literally in her videos, in her tweets, repeatedly, over years.

And if you didn’t watch this video what are you doing here exactly?

She went waaaaaay past rude twat into clearly transphobic, and you’re busy posting to say transphobia isn’t a thing.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/07/2024 18:13

KJK doesn't post here, she was banned long ago. Many women here support her, to a greater or lesser extent, some fully agree with her on this specific issue, some don't, some wince and think she could have worded it better, some are just sick of all the tribal bollocks. It's not up to us what she says, take it up with her.

Hope that helps, peeps!

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 18:13

@Pourquoise Fair enough. Well out of order.

I do think some positions should be exclusively for women and should exclude biological men, such as Mridhul Wadhwa's appointment as CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre which should never have happened, but absolutely don't agree with KSK's comments here.

Wumblewimble · 20/07/2024 18:15

FrippEnos · 19/07/2024 19:49

So if we are to accept this interpretation, it's KJK dropping to the level of TRAs.

Sometimes that's necessary

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:16

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 18:01

I'm not 'doxxing' anyone,
its no more doxxing than you saying people she hangs out with are Neo nazis-.
If he was a neo nazi publicly youd call it out in a shot.

Edited

what i meant was i’d never had a reason to look into him so wasn’t aware of anything.

AlisonDonut · 20/07/2024 18:17

If she capitulated and called the receptionist 'him' you'd all be screaming how much of a hypocrite she was.

At least she has a thought and sticks to it. Whether or not you agree with it or not.

WinkyMcFlapFace · 20/07/2024 18:18

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/07/2024 18:13

KJK doesn't post here, she was banned long ago. Many women here support her, to a greater or lesser extent, some fully agree with her on this specific issue, some don't, some wince and think she could have worded it better, some are just sick of all the tribal bollocks. It's not up to us what she says, take it up with her.

Hope that helps, peeps!

Harassment, abuse, calling for them not to be employed, saying they are unsafe to be around children, doxxing and covert broadcast of private calls, is not “could have worded it better”

Also you’re not the board police, though I’m sure you’d like to be judging from the frequency with which you chase off any dissenting voices.

OP started the thread to discuss this video, and here we are, discussing it. Non apologies for displeasing your expectation of how things go around here.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 18:18

WinkyMcFlapFace · 20/07/2024 18:12

Do your own homework.

It’s literally in her videos, in her tweets, repeatedly, over years.

And if you didn’t watch this video what are you doing here exactly?

She went waaaaaay past rude twat into clearly transphobic, and you’re busy posting to say transphobia isn’t a thing.

I don’t need to do anything. If you post claims at least have the evidence to back it up. I don’t need to do that for you. It’s a public discussion forum. I can comment on all, or bits of a discussion I agree or don’t agree with.

Refusing to serve someone in a shop for being trans, or give someone housing, or go against any of the human rights already afforded to trans people = transphobia.

Refusing to believe a man can be a woman and a woman can be a man and not going along with pronouns or not wanting biological males in women’s spaces = not transphobia.

Talk about comprehension skills again.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 18:19

WinkyMcFlapFace · 20/07/2024 18:18

Harassment, abuse, calling for them not to be employed, saying they are unsafe to be around children, doxxing and covert broadcast of private calls, is not “could have worded it better”

Also you’re not the board police, though I’m sure you’d like to be judging from the frequency with which you chase off any dissenting voices.

OP started the thread to discuss this video, and here we are, discussing it. Non apologies for displeasing your expectation of how things go around here.

You’re acting like the board police.

Discussion evolves.

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:20

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 18:18

I don’t need to do anything. If you post claims at least have the evidence to back it up. I don’t need to do that for you. It’s a public discussion forum. I can comment on all, or bits of a discussion I agree or don’t agree with.

Refusing to serve someone in a shop for being trans, or give someone housing, or go against any of the human rights already afforded to trans people = transphobia.

Refusing to believe a man can be a woman and a woman can be a man and not going along with pronouns or not wanting biological males in women’s spaces = not transphobia.

Talk about comprehension skills again.

glad you agree that is transphobia.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 18:25

glad you agree that is transphobia.

No evidence that's she's Far Right or Islamophobic however, despite your claims.

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:26

WinkyMcFlapFace · 20/07/2024 18:18

Harassment, abuse, calling for them not to be employed, saying they are unsafe to be around children, doxxing and covert broadcast of private calls, is not “could have worded it better”

Also you’re not the board police, though I’m sure you’d like to be judging from the frequency with which you chase off any dissenting voices.

OP started the thread to discuss this video, and here we are, discussing it. Non apologies for displeasing your expectation of how things go around here.

honestly i don’t like posting on MN due to it - i wish there was another feminist board which didn’t revolve just around this stuff.

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:27

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 18:25

glad you agree that is transphobia.

No evidence that's she's Far Right or Islamophobic however, despite your claims.

if you want to know information you’ll find it, rather than me sending you her whole X feed piece by piece maybe do it yourself as you are clearly going to explain away it all

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 18:28

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:26

honestly i don’t like posting on MN due to it - i wish there was another feminist board which didn’t revolve just around this stuff.

Eh, there is.

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:28

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 18:28

Eh, there is.

which is?

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 18:30

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 16:52

What attacks?

I’m not really sure what you’re on about to be honest. Happy to read any examples you have about donations, not being honest, less than straight. About what I’m not sure but again, happy to read about it.

Its hard to believe you missed all the drama she has stirred up between GCs particularly Stella OMalley for not being 'Ultra' enough - and for a trans identifying man at a Genspect conference.
By her own words she is a stay at home housewife whose financial support is from her husband...and the often broke women who she encourages to be 'GC Ultra'...

"Ms Keen's husband, Ryan Minshull, who also goes by Max Ford, runs events company Digilive, which often posts pro-LGBTIQA+ posts to its Instagram page.
The company's website also has a diversity statement where they claim to 'foster a diverse and inclusive culture in which people with all experiences, families, and cultures can thrive'.
It adds: 'We recognise the struggle for equality for those in the global LGBTQA+ community and celebrate their steps toward this goal over the last fifty years.'"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11883261/How-transphobe-Kellie-Jay-Keen-aka-Posie-Parker-caused-controversy-Australian-tour.html
https://www.digiliveevents.com/about

How Kellie-Jay Keen has caused controversy in Australia

The British anti-trans activist, 48 - who has been supported by JK Rowling - has faced criticism from LGBTIQA+ and feminist groups after Nazis attended her Melbourne rally.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11883261/How-transphobe-Kellie-Jay-Keen-aka-Posie-Parker-caused-controversy-Australian-tour.html

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 18:30

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:28

which is?

Feminism:Chat. Separate from the sex and gender discussions.

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 18:30

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 18:30

Feminism:Chat. Separate from the sex and gender discussions.

you mean the one that gets next to 0 traffic? and is for chat rather than discussions?

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