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KJK Live streams being sacked from her GPs surgery - trans staff member

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HootyMcBooby · 19/07/2024 17:15

Forward to 19.15 for the actual phone call.

KJK confrontation with trans staff member at her GPs surgery.

This ideology has no place in the NHS.
As someone whose Mother, aged 72, had a stroke and waited in an NHS corridor on a trolley for 16 hours only to be asked as the doctors FIRST question....... "how do you identify?", I feel the NHS is captured beyond hope,

I've had to leave my GP surgery due to an activist working there. #LWS #LetWomenSpeak #LWSLocals

This is the original #AdultHumanFemale channel and home of Kellie-Jay Keen aka Posie Parker.If you would like to donate to help support us, click here ⇨ http...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfiFJ4nbHUk

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Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 14:56

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 14:47

multiple neo nazis supporting her

Since when does a group supporting you (do they support her?) automatically make you part of that group? Bit of a stretch.

Though quite impressive that it was 300 odd posts in before the Far Right Bingo started.

never had a neo nazi support me… so there is that.

of course they would when she repeatedly uses their dog whistles. she is far right, many GC on this thread agree that she has gone downhill. if you want to blindly defend her despite knowing that, that’s on you.

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 14:57

EverybodyLovesString · 20/07/2024 14:56

I raised the issue of her drifting rightwards but I think it's inaccurate to say she was supported by neo-nazis, if we're talking about the Melbourne event.

Neo-nazi's were present because they turn up to everything in Melbourne if they think there'll be an opportunity to fight with Antifa. I don't believe they ever said they were there to support Posie. Note that this didn't happen in Sydney, Perth, Brisbane, Hobart or Canberra. Only Melbourne because Victoria hasn't dealt effectively with these groups and have limited the police's power to move people on.

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online as well - but yes that is an example of it.

many EDL / Tommy Robinson types support her

OldCrone · 20/07/2024 15:01

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 14:57

online as well - but yes that is an example of it.

many EDL / Tommy Robinson types support her

Does she support them?

She's not responsible for the actions of those men.

illinivich · 20/07/2024 15:01

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 14:56

never had a neo nazi support me… so there is that.

of course they would when she repeatedly uses their dog whistles. she is far right, many GC on this thread agree that she has gone downhill. if you want to blindly defend her despite knowing that, that’s on you.

Do you do anything that attracts a crowd?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 15:01

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 14:56

never had a neo nazi support me… so there is that.

of course they would when she repeatedly uses their dog whistles. she is far right, many GC on this thread agree that she has gone downhill. if you want to blindly defend her despite knowing that, that’s on you.

If you were in support of vegetarianism, and so were people in the far right, would that mean you were supported by the far right?

Don’t think I’ve said anywhere I blindly support her, I’ve not even said I support her but just because you have loons turning up as a rent a crowd you didn’t ask for doesn’t mean she is linked to those groups.

Anyone with half a brain knows you can’t change sex, even those with far right views. If Tommy Robinson turned up to a Taylor Swift concert Taylor wouldn’t automatically be a big EDL ally would she, or whatever he’s affiliated with.

LilyBartsHatShop · 20/07/2024 15:02

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/07/2024 00:51

So? I’ve gone to hospitals run by the Catholic Church with wards run by nuns.
I’m not a Christian. I’m not going to throw a tantrum because I see nuns habits and crucifixes all over the place and then storm off saying no Christian is going to see MY medical records and Christians should not be allowed to work in hospitals because it just ruins them.

There's been lots of conversation since this was posted but I'm still curious, are you acknowledging here @SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice that pronoun badges worn by staff in a medical clinic run by the NHS are equivalent to crucifixes worn by staff on a ward run by the Catholic church?
Or am I misunderstanding your analogy?

OldCrone · 20/07/2024 15:07

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 14:35

i know she doesn’t which is why it’s in quotes. she plays at being a feminist by using her platform to talk about how trans people are eroding women’s rights etc - yet speaks against women a lot of the time.

and no thank you - the one lot of her talking in the last 24 hours has met my limit of self flagellation.

do you believe she has since not supporting the labour party has turned far right? or was she always far right?

I recommend listening to the interview from 2019 where she explains how she first got involved in this fight.

If you start listening from just before 8 minutes in, there's about 5 minutes where she talks about part-time crossdressing men taking over a left-wing women's group she was a member of.

She was a lot more calm and measured in 2019, so you'll find it an easier listen.

Here's the link again.

https://www.feministcurrent.com/2019/01/24/podcast-posie-parker-standing-for-women

Posie Parker — Standing for Women

Meghan Murphy speaks with Posie Parker about feminism, her campaign group, Standing for Women, and the upcoming week of activism she organized to challenge the silencing of women on social media, #womenstandup

https://www.feministcurrent.com/2019/01/24/podcast-posie-parker-standing-for-women

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 15:07

OldCrone · 20/07/2024 15:01

Does she support them?

She's not responsible for the actions of those men.

repeatedly parroting views of theirs is supporting them yes.

please explain to me how she isn’t far right? and if so, who is far right?

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 15:08

OldCrone · 20/07/2024 15:07

I recommend listening to the interview from 2019 where she explains how she first got involved in this fight.

If you start listening from just before 8 minutes in, there's about 5 minutes where she talks about part-time crossdressing men taking over a left-wing women's group she was a member of.

She was a lot more calm and measured in 2019, so you'll find it an easier listen.

Here's the link again.

https://www.feministcurrent.com/2019/01/24/podcast-posie-parker-standing-for-women

thanks for the time stamps - i’ll give it a listen later !

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 15:09

please explain to me how she isn’t far right? and if so, who is far right?

Why don't you explain how she is? Post links that evidence these far right views that are the same as the EDL and the like. Interested to see these comments/links about Muslims cutting up women and putting them in meat, Islamophobia that she has agreed with etc etc.

OldCrone · 20/07/2024 15:09

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 15:07

repeatedly parroting views of theirs is supporting them yes.

please explain to me how she isn’t far right? and if so, who is far right?

Does she 'parrot their views'? Can you give some examples?

AlisonDonut · 20/07/2024 15:13

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 15:07

repeatedly parroting views of theirs is supporting them yes.

please explain to me how she isn’t far right? and if so, who is far right?

What even is 'far right' these days?

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 15:15

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 15:09

please explain to me how she isn’t far right? and if so, who is far right?

Why don't you explain how she is? Post links that evidence these far right views that are the same as the EDL and the like. Interested to see these comments/links about Muslims cutting up women and putting them in meat, Islamophobia that she has agreed with etc etc.

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link to the video about that https://x.com/icanseeforever1/status/1640340060145852417?s=46

x.com

https://x.com/icanseeforever1/status/1640340060145852417?s=46

NoWordForFluffy · 20/07/2024 15:16

AlisonDonut · 20/07/2024 15:13

What even is 'far right' these days?

I believe we only have left, centrist and far right. No far left and no right. So that makes it anybody right of Starmer (or Blair?), I think.

SamQuint · 20/07/2024 15:16

CassieMaddox · 20/07/2024 10:50

I actually feel quite sorry for the receptionist, I can imagine KJK standing at reception demanding they explain themselves for wearing a badge was extremely humiliating and possibly a bit scary.

I really don't think there is any justification for it. It would be like someone deciding to have a go at a receptionist wearing a hijab about whether God exists.

From what KJK said she started the conversation with the receptionist.

I've said multiple times on here that KJK wrote one of the few truly transphobic posts I've seen on here which is why I've never been a fan, it appears her true colours are showing more and more.

It is also illegal to record phone calls without permission so she could find herself in hot water if the surgery reports her. Although I agree with PP she will probably just use that for "crowd funding"

Is it really illegal to record phone calls without permission?
Better send the police round to mine then because I often do

NoWordForFluffy · 20/07/2024 15:18

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 15:15

Would you like to explain the context behind the quote? It's from a specific criminal case.

Fullyflavoured · 20/07/2024 15:19

If the phone calls are shared with a third party without consent then I think it is illegal. I could be wrong though.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 15:28

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 15:15

Right so she’s mentioned the grooming gangs scandal in Telford that involved the rape and sexual assault of minors by Pakistani men. There was a three year enquiry into this as I understand and it was found that the victims were blamed rather than the perpetrators and people were afraid to speak out due to not wanting to be accused of being racist.

She’s also referred to the case of Charlene Downs who was thought to have been cut up and ground into kebab meat after being groomed by a gang of Asian men.

Shes referred to two things that have actually happened, though the kebab meat hasn’t been proven, that’s a cop theory.

Where in the video does she say that all Asian/Pakistani men are grooming rapists and that they should ALL be discriminated against? That ALL Asian men murder and cut up women and chop them into kebab meat?

Is no one allowed to talk about these heinous incidents? That was part of the report! That people didn’t speak out in case of being accused of being racist.

You have assumed a hell of a lot from that video in an attempt to disparage her. Think you need a bit more than that.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 15:30

What she’s talking about falls under male violence against women and girls. It’s fact. Actual cases. She’s not accusing them without basis. Why isn’t she allowed to talk about it? Why is this ‘Far Right’. Because they happen to be Asian?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 15:34

*Inquiry

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 15:36

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 14:56

never had a neo nazi support me… so there is that.

of course they would when she repeatedly uses their dog whistles. she is far right, many GC on this thread agree that she has gone downhill. if you want to blindly defend her despite knowing that, that’s on you.

Dont be ludicrous she is not 'far right,' she is just an opportunist who appears to have conned both sides into believing she is uncompromisingly Ultra GC and both sides have fallen for it.
A casual google of her husband business who supports her, reveals he is pro trans, so... and so much for purity spirals, hers or anyone elses.
This overegged hysteria from people who havent a clue on either end of the spectrum, screaming far right,far left, nazi or marxist is quite nauseating and offensive to those who have experienced the real deals.
Its a hysterical over reaction straight from America, the land of over reaction.
Have you never heard of Peter and the Wolf
or reverse psychology?

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 15:40

Omlettes · 20/07/2024 15:36

Dont be ludicrous she is not 'far right,' she is just an opportunist who appears to have conned both sides into believing she is uncompromisingly Ultra GC and both sides have fallen for it.
A casual google of her husband business who supports her, reveals he is pro trans, so... and so much for purity spirals, hers or anyone elses.
This overegged hysteria from people who havent a clue on either end of the spectrum, screaming far right,far left, nazi or marxist is quite nauseating and offensive to those who have experienced the real deals.
Its a hysterical over reaction straight from America, the land of over reaction.
Have you never heard of Peter and the Wolf
or reverse psychology?

i’ve never looked into her family as even though i think she’s awful i don’t agree with looking into peoples families

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 15:43

A casual google of her husband business who supports her, reveals he is pro trans, so... and so much for purity spirals, hers or anyone elses.

You can be pro trans and anti men in women's spaces. The hard of thinking struggle with that but hey ho.

Alwaystired94 · 20/07/2024 15:46

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/07/2024 15:43

A casual google of her husband business who supports her, reveals he is pro trans, so... and so much for purity spirals, hers or anyone elses.

You can be pro trans and anti men in women's spaces. The hard of thinking struggle with that but hey ho.

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many on this thread have confirmed that GC and anti trans are not the same thing.

nietzscheanvibe · 20/07/2024 16:08

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 20/07/2024 00:07

No, I am saying by the very existence of speech choices that do not compromise her beliefs and are normal parlance, she was therefore not compelled to use speech that goes against her beliefs.

Compelled speech means you have no choice either by necessity or under duress.

The fact she could have effectively communicated in a way that met both her beliefs and the receptionist’s beliefs, but actively and knowingly chose not to, and instead chose speech that forces her beliefs on the receptionist puts her firmly in the wrong.

As @Impossiblenurse implies, there are a number of valid options in how to refer to the person, but if we are prohibited from using any one of them (i.e., pronouns based on sex), that's surely compelled speech? The badge provides the 'duress'.

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