KJK Live streams being sacked from her GPs surgery - trans staff member

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Forward to 19.15 for the actual phone call.

KJK confrontation with trans staff member at her GPs surgery.

This ideology has no place in the NHS.
As someone whose Mother, aged 72, had a stroke and waited in an NHS corridor on a trolley for 16 hours only to be asked as the doctors FIRST question....... "how do you identify?", I feel the NHS is captured beyond hope,

that’s what I do@OldCrone but i also don’t go off on one if someone wears a badge I think is stupid

They’re not meaningless @Ereshkigalangcleg , they don’t have magical power. There is a difference

Who said they did have "magical power" then?

if they are meaningless why do GC scream they are being forced to do something awful when they see someone wearing a pin showing pronouns

This is what Maria MacLachlan said about her experience of the trial. The judge seems to have been biased against her as the victim of a violent crime.

My experience of court was much worse than the assault. I was the one on trial that day and if it hadn’t been for the clear video evidence that I’d been assaulted, my assailant wouldn’t have been convicted, even though there were over a dozen witnesses who could have said what happened. I was asked “as a matter of courtesy” to refer to my assailant as either “she” or as “the defendant.” I have never been able to think of any of my assailants as women because, at the time of the assault, they all looked and behaved very much like men and I had no idea that any of them identified as women. After he was arrested, the defendant posted vile misogynistic comments on his Facebook page that no woman would ever make. He was also filmed aggressively intimidating a woman on a picket line, shouting obscenities at her. In what sense is this person a woman?

I tried to refer to him as “the defendant,” but using a noun instead of a pronoun is an unnatural way to speak. It was while I was having to relive the assault and answer questions about it while watching it on video that I slipped back to using “he” and earned a rebuke from the judge. I responded that I thought of the defendant “who is male, as a male.”

The judge never explained why I was expected to be courteous to the person who had assaulted me or why I wasn’t allowed to narrate what happened from my own perspective, given that I was under oath. His rebuke and the defence counsel’s haranguing of me for the same reason just made me more nervous and I so continued to inadvertently refer to my male assailant as “he.” In his summing up, the judge said I had shown “bad grace” and used this as an excuse not to award compensation. One writer said, “It was as if the state had colluded with the defendant to take one last stab at the victim,” and that’s exactly how it felt.

https://www.feministcurrent.com/2018/06/21/interview-maria-maclauchlan-gra-aftermath-assault-speakers-corner/

Another way of looking at it. She has a business to run and this her way of advertising it through social media exposure. It's like how she was charging guests £75 a head to go to her LWS-themed 50th birthday party.

It's not me saying they are meaningless. Silly, often. But I recognise that they're often used to compel people's speech, which isn't meaningless.

She tweeted the surgery name and website too.

I dropped them an email to make them aware of allegations being made online, would be interesting to hear their viewpoint of all this.

As well as all the crap being said on Twitter, a 30 min video of KJK naming a trans person at her surgery whilst also saying trans people are "after our children" (words to that effect) throughout is something they might want to know about for potential legal action.

Nailed it.

I strongly suspect the timing of that call from the GP manager wasn’t co-incidental.

People who do live broadcasts on mic don’t have their phone ringer on loud, or take random voice calls mid live-stream.

Reasonable to conclude KJK was expecting the call-back at that time, had fully prepared her script for maximum drama and clicks, and very intentionally live streamed the caller without their consent.

Her points are valid even if not expressed perfectly. Why does she know the beliefs of any of the staff members (from their badges and lanyards)? Why is she, and all staff and patients, expected to pretend a woman is a man?

"She has a business to run and this her way of advertising it through social media exposure"

There's a term for it- rage-baiting, a type of trolling where attention and replies are enticed by intentionally posting something that will get people (or a specific group of people) all raged up.

it is unfortunate she has to involve 3rd parties however.

You think she has the power to command a phone call when she wants now?

it’s quite common to be told a time someone is available to call you.

Exactly this. She is a nasty piece of work getting off on being performatively unpleasant.

Oh my - I’ll take this at face value and assume you’re not being obtuse for the sake of it.

GP practices (and many other businesses) often ask for a time when you are available to speak on the phone for a call back, so that their precious staff time is not wasted on calling people who aren’t available to speak.

It’s completely normal practice, though presumably has never happened for you.

What we see here is KJK's "Ultra" position coming up against the world as it exists. She seems to spend most of her Twitter time now posting snarky messages about Sex Matters even though they've been nothing but supportive of her. Their work concentrates on treading quite softly but acting forcefully behind the scenes to make sure that our lives aren't affected by this nonsense within laws and policies. KJK seems to think they are cowards and we should all take her hard-line stance all the time, even if it gets us kicked out of the doctors.

I basically agree with her on everything but I would prefer to roll my eyes at a pronoun badge and go about my day, rather than picking a fight in public with reception staff.

Managers should not be telling people to put pronouns in the email signature. I would refuse if told to.

www.jonathanlea.net/blog/do-employees-have-to-use-gender-pronouns-in-email-signatures/

My doctor does not arrange a time for a call back. I’m told that when the doctor is available he/she will call me. I imagine they are busy people and have to prioritise what is and isn’t important. So no I disagree it isn’t common practise where I live.

Different practices work in different ways. I'm given a time for a phone appointment in exactly the same way that I'm given a time for a face to face one.

The chances of her being called at exactly that point and with her phone's ringtone on loud during her podcast, without her expecting it, are remote.

Same for mine. If I phone in the morning they might say I'll get a call back "this afternoon". I have to then ask what the earliest and latest times are likely to be as they don't tend to volunteer this information.

There's a term for it- rage-baiting, a type of trolling where attention and replies are enticed by intentionally posting something that will get people (or a specific group of people) all raged up.

Yes, many TRAs are absolute masters of this.

I admire KJK's bravery, her marketing and organisational skills. I've been to her events and she's incredibly talented. Which is what makes it all the more frustrating that she spends so much time grandstanding to her own echo chamber and attacking other women.

Sex Matters is far more effective than she is at creating policy change and that's what is needed here, not shouting and swearing at receptionists wearing a pronoun pin. Of course they don't want her as a patient. Employers have a responsibility to act when their staff are being abused at work.

Her drift to the right really concerns me. I saw her arguing with Martina Navratilova that the Jan 6 insurrection was just "selfies in the capital". This week she was attacking the female secret service agent that protected Trump after he was shot. Not to mention her dog-whistling tweets about muslims.

It's a real shame. I defended her when other feminists were attacking her as a right-wing extremist. I'm not sure I was right to do so now.

She was clearly waiting for the call. Her eyes keep flicking down to check her phone. Then the call comes in on loudspeaker 🙄

All GP practices work differently. Some do schedule times. And anyway this wasn’t a GP appointment as I understand it, it was with the practice manager. Who is an admin person. Who presumably scheduled this in her diary as a telephone meeting as any of us with desk jobs would do.

It's a small office- 4 girls, 4 boys. We had a great time. It started a few years back as there was a bit of friction between two of the ladies at the time and a girls spa day was felt to be a nice bonding opportunity. It then continued as an annual thing

I think its nice that he treats us to be fair. We normally get one large trip with partners and then these singular trips once a year.

maybe i should complain about a day off work, a trip to a spa with two treatments and a 3 course meal costing over £100pp - how dare he.