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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

FFS disability is now on the pride flag

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sashh · 16/07/2024 08:58

I'm livid. I'm disabled and I do not want to be represented on the LGBTQ+ flag.

Also this quote: Dayna Halliwell (she/her), Content and Engagement Manager at Evenbreak, led the collaboration and organised the Pride visit. She said: “It was very moving and amazing to see the reaction of disabled people in the audience. You could see the joy on their faces of being represented in the parade.”

https://blog.evenbreak.co.uk/2024/07/02/new-disability-inclusive-pride-flag-unveiled-at-london-pride/

New Disability-Inclusive Pride Flag unveiled at London Pride

Image description: Evenbreak team members in pink t-shirts carry the new Disability-Inclusive Pride Flag in the London Pride Parade alongside Valentino Vechietti, dressed in white. Photo credit: Ma…

https://blog.evenbreak.co.uk/2024/07/02/new-disability-inclusive-pride-flag-unveiled-at-london-pride

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Sloejelly · 16/07/2024 10:19

Quietnights · 16/07/2024 10:15

The Pride flag isn't.

The Progress Pride flag is.

The Pride flag now is the Progress Pride flag.

Quietnights · 16/07/2024 10:19

It’s a celebration of diversity, is it not? Unless you’re incredibly homophobic and don’t want to be associated, I don’t see why you’d have a problem with it

You try openly marching nowadays at a Pride event under a banner that proudly announces you are a same sex attracted lesbian and you'll quickly discover how diverse and homofriendly Pride now is.

(Clue: its not).

Startingagainandagain · 16/07/2024 10:19

Why does it bother you?

The flag seems to me to be a representation of diversity.

I have a long term health condition that is classified as a disability and I am a bi woman.

I have no problem with this whatsoever.

If that flag does not represent you then simply don't use it/display it.

I am always amazed at how so many people these days choose to be offended by everything.

If you want to be offended by something I would focus on campaigning for the rights of disabled people not to be treated like dirt by so many employers, the DWP and the right wing media..This is what affects my life negatively, not a bloody flag....

MoveToParis · 16/07/2024 10:19

Combattingthemoaners · 16/07/2024 10:11

Why choose to be offended by this? I am gay and don’t really see myself as part of the LGBTQ+ community. However, I respect people’s right to want to form this kind of community as a safe place and celebration of diversity. If your personal belief or identity doesn’t align with it then no one is forcing you to be part of it.

Actually, disabled people are being coerced to “be part of it”. Look at the replies to those who have said that the flag doesn’t represent them.

Disable people (and indeed lesbians and others) are allowed to challenge the condescension of It was very moving and amazing to see the reaction of disabled people in the audience. You could see the joy on their faces of being represented in the parade. That speaker does not see disabled people as actual humans she sees them as “Validation Sources”. It’s actually quite sinister.

SummerSnowstorm · 16/07/2024 10:20

Sounds like a step towards disabilities being minimised even further and treated the same as identifying a certain way.

Hoosemover · 16/07/2024 10:20

Benjilassi · 16/07/2024 10:06

I am a straight, able-bodied woman and my knowledge of the Pride movement is what I hear on the news and see on SM.

Until today I thought Pride was about gender. Now I see the modern flag represents diversity and hope.

I think that each representation will become so diluted so it will become meaningless. A Pride march could include everyone.

Pride used to be about sexuality…LGB it only recently that the T was added and focus shifted around 2017 to trans

There was a suggestion that this was because the introduction of various policy including same sex marriage that gave legal equality to the LGB community.They needed a new campaign to keep them in jobs.

labamba007 · 16/07/2024 10:21

Disabled people are highly underrepresented, face huge adversity, and gain the least awareness.

They deserve their own awareness campaign separate from pride not just tagged on at the end. I'd like to see organisations give as much investment and celebration to people with disabilities as they do LGBT+ people.

JusteanBiscuits · 16/07/2024 10:21

NameChange0101010101 · 16/07/2024 10:11

You will be well aware then that some of the groups pushing for inclusion under the pride umbrella are minor attracted persons (aka paedophiles) and pro bestiality.

Noting this does not equal 'anyone who identifies as queer is a paedophile and fetishist' .

You will also be aware that 'queer' is offensive to some LGB people, as is the appropriation of homosexuality by 'spicy straights'.

This forced teaming does no one to the left of the T any favours.

I am standing by my comment that Queer is not a gender identity which is what was claimed

Chersfrozenface · 16/07/2024 10:21

Orangeandgold · 16/07/2024 10:18

Pride is a celebration of sexuality- not diversity!!!!!

Diversity in sexuality- yes. Not diversity of people.

Should we start putting races on there too? This is coming from someone from the global south who constantly has their race chucked into conversations that try to reason arguments about sexuality with comparisons to racism.

Should we start putting races on there too?

Races are already on the Progress flag - the black and brown chevrons in the left.

Demonhunter · 16/07/2024 10:21

SummerSnowstorm · 16/07/2024 10:20

Sounds like a step towards disabilities being minimised even further and treated the same as identifying a certain way.

It'll be to aid anyone to more easily self identify as having a disability. This whole self ID trumping facts is just way out of hand!

AlisonDonut · 16/07/2024 10:22

Time for a reminder...

timenowplease · 16/07/2024 10:23

Benjilassi · 16/07/2024 10:06

I am a straight, able-bodied woman and my knowledge of the Pride movement is what I hear on the news and see on SM.

Until today I thought Pride was about gender. Now I see the modern flag represents diversity and hope.

I think that each representation will become so diluted so it will become meaningless. A Pride march could include everyone.

Where did you get the idea that Pride was about gender? It's not even close! 🤦‍♀️

This is why straight people have no business sticking their nose in. Probably exactly why we've ended up in this mess in the first place.

SerendipityJane · 16/07/2024 10:23

Who the fuck would want to "celebrate" being housebound, unable to live without a carer, at risk of lifelong unhealing pressure sores and bladder and bowel incontinence whilst being visually impaired and unable to get from one room to the next without a 10 page risk assessment ?

Oh, not that kind of disabled.

Devonbabs · 16/07/2024 10:23

BloodyHellKenAgain · 16/07/2024 10:01

Surely vegans and vegetarians must be represented on the pride flag. Maybe by adding a carrot or a chickpea?

I’m vegan, I do not want to be connected in any way shape or form to the misogynistic shit show that is now Pride!! - sorry I know you’re joking, but it won’t be long before someone puts this forward lol

K0OLA1D · 16/07/2024 10:26

BloodyHellKenAgain · 16/07/2024 10:01

Surely vegans and vegetarians must be represented on the pride flag. Maybe by adding a carrot or a chickpea?

A sprig of broccoli 🥦

DrBlackbird · 16/07/2024 10:26

JusteanBiscuits · 16/07/2024 10:21

I am standing by my comment that Queer is not a gender identity which is what was claimed

I know people who identify as queer because they don't fit the gay or bi box, so consider themselves queer. I don't know ANYONE who considers queer a gender identitity.

This claim is genuinely puzzling. Queer has most definitely included, indeed centred, those with a gender identity! How can you claim it’s not?

NotBadConsidering · 16/07/2024 10:28

JusteanBiscuits · 16/07/2024 10:21

I am standing by my comment that Queer is not a gender identity which is what was claimed

No, that’s not what was claimed. Here is the post you quoted:

TemuSpecialBuy · Today 09:37

CatMumSlave · Today 09:27
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LGB and TQ are different things too. The former are sexual identities and the latter are gender identities which are not the same at all.

This is what I don't get. Why group them all?
To legitimise fetishists and AGPs and probably a couple of paedos too who want to push boundaries and normalise themselves in wider society”

The post was about how everything is grouped together to blur the boundaries. The boundaries between sexuality, gender identity, and age of consent.

You don’t think “queer” is a gender identity. No one can explain what “queer” is then.

AlisonDonut · 16/07/2024 10:28

K0OLA1D · 16/07/2024 10:26

A sprig of broccoli 🥦

It will be an onion ring or a misshapen carrot with a penis. It is always either a hole or a bulge so to speak.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 16/07/2024 10:30

SummerSnowstorm · 16/07/2024 10:20

Sounds like a step towards disabilities being minimised even further and treated the same as identifying a certain way.

That's a good (and worrying point) especially when some people will undoubtedly identify as being disabled rather than actually having a disability. And don't get me started on those nutters who have amputations etc for no reason.
Maybe this new addition is also geared towards them?

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 16/07/2024 10:31

AlisonDonut · 16/07/2024 10:22

Time for a reminder...

This was awesome. Do we know what the event was supposed to be about? He’s talking about the dangers of anarchy, and queer theory because of their intrinsic endorsement of paedophilia.

The hecklers are shouting about trans rights and transphobia. What caused TRAs to link themselves with paedophilia by heckling that discussion?

When was it and who is he? It looks older than I think it is.

GrannyRose15 · 16/07/2024 10:32

WaitingForMojo · 16/07/2024 09:05

It’s a celebration of diversity, is it not?

Unless you’re incredibly homophobic and don’t want to be associated, I don’t see why you’d have a problem with it.

Here we go. Don’t agree with you so must be homophobic. The pride flag is not inclusive. It is highly divisive. No wonder some people don’t want to be associated with it.

DysonSphere · 16/07/2024 10:32

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY JOKING!!!!

No. It's hard enough having an invisible disability without the added association of this madness. Now disability will be added in with the self id crowd. Why? Whose brilliant idea was this?

I was seriously considering wearing a disabled badge on my jacket to forgo assumptions being made about my physical ability when I don't look unwell, but I won't bother now if it's going to be taken as a declaration of self I.D. and associated with Pride.

Iloveyoubut · 16/07/2024 10:32

QAOPspaceman · 16/07/2024 09:08

At least this takes it one step closer to collapsing under the weight of its own bullshit

100% this! It’ll be like EadyJet priority boarding soon with any luck.

Devonbabs · 16/07/2024 10:33

AlisonDonut · 16/07/2024 10:22

Time for a reminder...

Thank you for sharing this. Every time anyones kids school starts pushing this shit we need to email this to the safeguarding team