Sheffield Party Of Women candidate threatened with arrest for leaflets

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Not much info about this yet, but just saw it on Twitter.

BREAKING. Party of Women
@SheffieldPOW
candidate in Leeds has been threatened with arrest for the leaflets she distributed on a charge of malicious communications.

com/terfasaurus/status/1806370775894491266

I always thought it was loon

Well you were wrong. Just like your wrong about men can be women.

That did amuse me too!

I don't think men can be women
Let's not derail onto my personal views though.
Nice username BTW. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and all that 😎

I am all for a mainstream media inviting Posie on to discuss whether it is appropriate for police officers threatening parliamentary candidates with harm for sharing approved campaign material to be referred to in derogatory terms by that candidate.

This. They're proving that their election leaflets are true.

Back to the election leaflets - I was following someone on Instagram who posted a picture of the leaflet and ranted about how disgusting and offensive it was (they were in Bristol, I think). One of the replies was along the lines of 'that would upset my trans daughter, how can they say such horrible things'. Because biology and facts are upsetting, aren't they?

I couldn't comment because it was on our work Instagram, but we're no longer following them.

I don't think this is a valid comparison -
Didn't the Reform candidate used a racial slur about the Prime Minister and suggest that the army should shoot migrants arriving by boat as target practice?
Has any PoW candidate done anything similar to warrant being kicked out of the party?
But the thread is about legitimate election material being considered as 'malicious communication', I want to find out what's happening about the main topic of the thread.

It's often useful, when encountering certain usernames, to just glance quickly upwards at, you know, the actual title and subject of the thread, before reading/thinking of answering their posts. In a Bunburyish manner.

The police in a democratic country have tried to interfere with an election. This should end very badly for the police.

Language policing is just part of an authoritarian bent in the left. When are people going to accept we need words that insult.
If you purge one another one will appear, humans are creative like that. Minorities do not have the right to control other people's language. We'll be claiming people shouldn't say 'only women have a cervix' next.

The issue here is the conduct of the police.

Ah, similar to the Gaelic ("Q" Celtic) sròn, that makes sense. The name must date back to the Kingdom of Strathclyde when the main language would have been Cumbric ("P" Celtic).

I just looked up Welsh for nose and got "trwn". Language is fascinating, isn't it?

Troon as far as I was aware was a town in Scotland

Or in my family a slang term for trousers

Cis when describing men or women who don’t think they are anything other than the sex they were observed to be at birth which is pretty much everyone bar a few people is an unnecessary word. Only used when someone wants to other the majority of men and women who are not trans

If we have the term trans for that tiny minority of people then I think using the term cis for the majority is really only used as a slur

Which raises an interesting question.

Left wing women who feel they cannot vote Labour because of their stance on gender identity (in brief, accepting the belief that womanhood can be a mental attribute, and therefore that male people can at times be considered "women" for the purposes of woman-only protections and opportunities, can be recorded as "women" in official records like crime records, and that any social or informal exclusion of these men from the group of women in language or practice can be considered hateful and may be illegal) are often told to see the bigger picture and vote Labour for the good of society overall.

Can anyone who believes women should overlook Labour's anti-woman bias on gender issues tell me if they apply the same logic to the Workers Party and homophobia? In other words, if someone feels the WP's policies are good ones for the country but feels uncomfortable that the leader has made statements that they find homophobic, should they ignore this one issue in favour of the bigger picture?

If not, why not?

My personal view is that I think she should lay off using in-group terms that the majority of the population there won't understand and are perceived badly by her opponents, as I think all candidates should present themselves as serious politicians rather than trolling on Twitter, which is by no means limited to minority parties like POW.

But I don't see any reason for the police to be involved, or that the leaflets constitute malicious communications.

Christinapple · Today 00:18

If tr**n was to be added to official dictionaries it would be listed as a derogatory slur. Which btw, cis and cisgender are not.

You may well not be aware, but the judge in Maya Forstater's Employment Appeal Tribunal ruled that TERF is, indeed, a slur. So there you have it, a legal ruling proving that you are wrong. As for "cis," why do you refuse to accept so many people that they find it offensive? Why is it only TEZs and their chums, who get to decide what is and is not offensive?

Noone is above the law...

Really? Why has he (I presume it's a man) got a dispensation to be absolved of legal responsibilities? I thought that even monarchs were not above the law?

I'm possibly being thick, as I've actually never heard the word before but why is it transphobic?

If it only applies to people appropriating trans identity not actually trans people, wouldn't 'real' trans people welcome the separation and recognition that the bad/criminal behaviour is not representative of themselves?

Grow up. You are being childish and fickle. No woman should be supporting male police officers who use their position to try to silence female political candidates. Go and have a look how many male candidates have used much worse words against women, then report them if you are that bothered. I wouldn't because I am an adult

It's a very hateful slur used against trans people, it's used often on hate sites like 4chan, kiwifarms and more recently on twitter in an extremely hateful manner. And yes MacDonald's use of it has been reported to police.

Not sure where you got that definition from you quoted (kiwifarms?) but it is a hateful slur used against actual trans people.

A Greens candidate got banned for calling JK Rowling a "tired old cow". As much as Rowling isn't my favourite person it was right for the Greens to ban her.

The same should apply to Louise MacDonald who is throwing "tr*n" around, calling a police officer "fragile fck" and appears to still be goading the police and encouraging her followers to do so too. Wouldn't be surprised at all if she's charged for all this.

Yeah?

Like woman:- adult human female.

Q: What does 'troon' mean?

A: It is a very hateful slur used on hate sites in an extremely hateful manner. It is a hateful slur.

The word 'hate(ful)' used four times in four sentences. Give me strength.

oh no you don't.

If, for eg, you are prattling on about how "troon" is a slur (I agree it is, but some may disagree) and that if you say it's a slur then it jolly well is, so there.

It follows that when we say Cis and TERF is a slur - you can bloody well pin back your lugs and pay attention. Don't use those words when we tell/ask you not to. And then we'll all be friends.

The differences between Q Celtic and P Celtic is one of my favourite topics of amateur interest, as are the similarities between P Celtic (some Q Celtic) and Hindi words/sounds.

But I’ve learned not to bore DH by talking about it 😏😂

The Oxford English Dictionary has one entry for troone as a variant of throne -

Throne. (noun)
.2. b. A ceremonial chair occupied by a pope or bishop. Hence also: the office or position of Pope or bishop...
a1500 (?c1378)
Þe pope sittiþ in his troone & makiþ lordis to kisse his feet.
J. Wyclif, English Works (1880) 457 (Middle English Dictionary)

Referring to someone as a status-enhancing chair doesn't sound so bad really, especially if it means you are seen as important and there's the potential of being a leader and having your feet kissed by random lords. (Am very grateful in these circumstances that my sex precludes me from ever becoming a lord.)

There's also another similar entry for trune, this time involving a platform and a canopy over the important chair.

Who are disagreeing tr**n is a slur? kiwifarms? The communities which make use of it don't seem to be the most credible ones.

I looked up cisgender for you on 3 major dictionaries and make a little collage. Notice how none of them describe it as a slur or derogatory (which they will do for words which really are).

It's tron in Cornish and we also have a place called Troon