Sheffield Party Of Women candidate threatened with arrest for leaflets

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Not much info about this yet, but just saw it on Twitter.

BREAKING. Party of Women
@SheffieldPOW
candidate in Leeds has been threatened with arrest for the leaflets she distributed on a charge of malicious communications.

com/terfasaurus/status/1806370775894491266

This thread is mad. I am voting entirely on the single sex space issue. I’ve spoken or written to my candidates about it. I have leafleted ( not for PoW) on this issue. But I can see quite clearly from those tweets that the PoW candidate is completely out of order and is clearly using the word ‘troon’ as a derogatory term. ‘I smell Troon’. I mean. Jeez.

We should be able to call out prejudiced shit from our own side and this is clearly it.

I will not be scurrying around trying to whip up defenses and justifications for an attitude or language like that.

Cis might not be in any dictionary as a slur word. Neither are She, Him, Miss, Madam or Sir etc

Call a trans woman Sir or refer to a trans man as her and you will find those words being treated as a slur

So why cant the word Cis be considered a slur when referring to a man or woman.

Christinapple a question for you, please?

You have been told that using the slur cis is considered offensive by many on these boards. Would you please stop using it in discourse on FWR, please. Thank you.

I'm confused. When I Google the word troon it tells me it is a town in Ayrshire. I'm not aware of any other usage.

you can try and academise your use of "cis" until the cows come home. It isn't academic, it is a made up term to try to make your trans arguments seem as though they have some substance.

Cis is a slur and that is it. You can stop trying to convince anyone because we are not having it.

Who is disagreeing that "troon" is a slur? some people on here i guess, and others in the wider world. I don't happen to agree but there it is.

Cis is a slur. And all attempts by you and anyone else to make it seem legit is pathetically hilarious.

A good comparison for "cisgender" would be "godless". It's unlikely to be formally defined as a slur but a person would be very naive not to realise it is used that way by certain social groups, some of whom have significant political power, to discredit and dismiss people and groups who do not share their beliefs.

I was deleted, because I mentioned AGP. I'll try again.

Many women (loads I personally know), think that most transwomen are AGP. Not a generalisation, HQ, a specific personal observation.

See Debbie Hayton who advocates for AGP men to use women's toilets.

They do not see this as something to respect. They see it as the fetishisation of women's oppression, and sexist in the extreme.

It's no good asking these women to respect men, or the terms they want us to use for them.

Cis isn’t a slur imo. It can be used in a sneering contemptuous way and then it is used as an insult, but it’s not a slur otherwise. It’s a word used to describe a made up concept to give legitimacy to a made up ideology. It’s offensive as it makes women a sub group if their own sex class. The ideas that underpin it are harmful to women. But I don’t see it as a slur. I do see it as an offensive term in a harmful ideology but I don’t see it as a slur within the terms of that ideology, no.

Perhaps this comes down to how you define ‘slur’.

The leaflet. The leaflet. What was wrong with the leaflet??

It didn't prioritise men

The attempts to derail the thread by repeatedly telling us what a hateful slur 'troon' is are all very lovely, but the actual point of the OP is that an election candidate has been threatened with arrest for her leaflets, and the leaflets don't appear to actually use the word 'troon'. So what. specifically, are the 'malicious communications' she's being accused of in her election leaflet, and why is she (allegedly) being threatened with arrest?

Just because a word is in the dictionary doesn't mean it isn't a slur.

On the other hand, I don't think "fragile" can be termed hateful - if the cap fits...

We're also told that the dictionary definition of woman is transphobic so being in the dictionary doesn't mean anything

I think we hang out in very different spaces. I've only seen it used in a derogatory way.

It originated many years ago (probably 15+ years) on a message board called Something Awful. Users were called goons, trans users were called troons. It wasn't a slur particularly, or at least no more than the other language used between users of the site.

TRAs can say as many awful things about women as they like and that's fine. Say anything other than transwomen are women in every possible way and it's a transphobic slur.

It is a slur to me if I say it is. Twitter says it is, too, btw.
And frankly I'd love MN to ban it. For balance.

And everyone must respect that and not use it to and of me.

Or I'll throw all my toys out of the pram.

A penis person has come to criticise a fellow penis person for supporting women. We all know how much Fred hates women despite claiming to be one.

Cis gender, like any of the many dozens of genders, is something an individual can choose to be.

If you wake up one day and think "I would like to buy into the dogshit bundle of sexist homophobic tropes and stereotypes historically associated with people of my sex" then you're cis gender.

I'm not into that, personally.

I haven't scrolled back to the original screenshot but assuming the one Freda posted above is genuine. I do wish that PoW had re-thought the header to that last lot of points.

That said, I have no idea what their (Edited to clarify I mean Freda's) post is about.

No, Fred deliberately posted a badly photoshopped version. The original says Our solutions

If cringe gender was a thing... FW would be it

AHH makes sense now, that is one very bad Photoshop.

However it is also a disgusting thing to do.