And again you have chosen to twist what Helen Joyce actually said. Here it is:
"We can't win this by saying you know there's 60 x million people in this country and we've got to persuade all of them or a great majority of them. We've got to get through to the decision makers and in the meantime while we're trying to get through to the decision makers we have to try to limit the harm. And that means reducing or keeping down the number of people who transition and that's for two reasons. One of them is that every one of those people is a person who's been damaged."
"But the second one is every one of those people is basically, you know, a huge problem to a sane world. Like if you've got people that and whether they're transitioned whether they're happily transitioned, whether they're unhappily transitioned, whether they're de-transitioned. If you've got people who've dissociated from their sex in some way, every one of those people is someone who needs special accommodation."
"In a sane world where we re-acknowledge the the truth of sex and I mean the people who've been damaged by it. The children have been put through this. Those people deserve every accommodation we can possibly make but every one of them is a difficulty, yes. And I mean I know that sounds heartless.."
Do tell us mishy:
In a 'sane' world, why are male children sleeping in the same rooms as female children thereby lowering the safeguarding standards for those female children?
In a 'sane' world, should a male child be getting undressed in a shared changing space as female children? And how is this robust safeguarding?
In a 'sane' world, why are male people competing in female sporting events thereby decreasing safety, fairness and opportunity for female people?
In a 'sane' world why is any one undergoing extreme body modifications, with a a very high failure rate and regret rate, just to cope with everyday life, without extensive and of very long duration therapy before they ever make such a decision.
In a 'sane' world, how is puberty, a 'natural' body process that is vital for maturation of humans (including brain development) considered something to be stopped and substituted with artificial hormones. Artificial hormones that cause damage to the body because those hormones are not healthy for a person of that sex category. How is it 'sane' to tell children that they are going through the 'wrong' puberty? And how is it 'sane' that an environment of fear of natural puberty has been so created?
Let's have a discussion that you can bring your evidence to, evidence to support your claims.
See. You declare that her 'sane world' comment is based on some intention of hatred. No. Her 'sane' world is about making sure children are properly protected and not medicalised, and that all people have the care and the opportunities that they need.
Not that women and children have been de prioritised.
And that no person in this world is forced in some way to have to lie to make others happy. No one has to lie to subvert the truth under threat of job or any opportunity loss, loss of loved ones under any duress, including guilt and emotional manipulation. Because how sane is a world where people are punished for speaking the truth. For following the proven science that there is no materially real way for any human on this planet to change sex. And that sex needs to prioritised in many situations, not someone's gender identity.