Pride month

[Hyperions]

Has anyone noticed a dialling down in PRIDE logos on business websites today?

Have they also got adequate ramps, fully accessible toilets and facilities, information in braille, clear easy-to-understand announcements at sufficient volume and someone on hand to provide immediate assistance if required? 🤔

If they could put up disabled bunting, they would do that too. It is very cheap.

From what I’ve seen most of the homosexual transsexuals still feel the same way but are too scared to say it. Can’t say I blame them seeing how the AGPs behave. Some of the homosexual ones are just as misogynistic and hateful but they’re more of a mixed bunch in my experience. At the end of the day it’s nonsense to say a human being can change sex and it’s abuse to mutilate mentally ill people but I don’t see much in common between them and AGPs. To me it’s clear the whole transgender umbrella nonsense was an intentional tactic used to conflate heterosexual perverts with mentally ill / vulnerable gay people to generate undeserved sympathy and make it harder for people to challenge them.

Also let’s be honest, it’s not the straight middle aged men wearing dresses that are getting raped or murdered. It is almost entirely trans-identified young gay men, and more and more young women these days, especially if they are an ethnic minority, live on the street and have to sell their body to survive.

50 year old married man Phil popping into the ladies with his boner poking out of a skirt has nothing to do with helping those kids. What they need is mental health treatment, housing and safety and I don’t think there is a GC feminist in the world who wants to see them denied those things. But TRA is just MRA and the only people they care about are straight white men. They use those kids as a cover for their sexual enjoyment in violating women and then have the cheek to attack those of us who actually want to help as bigots.

Sorry didn’t mean to go off on a tangent just that post reminded me how mad I get when people treat confused gay, abused or autistic kids like they’re the same as AGPs. Of course we need to protect them from themselves and protect women from all trans-identified males but it isn’t the same thing.

I think you are misunderstanding.

No one really wants straight Pride.

What they want is what many gay and lesbian people always wanted - for their lives, including spouses etc, to be treated just like anyone else's life.

That doesn't necessarily mean people won't notice, or that it might not have some social consequences occasionally, but that it's like other minor differences between people that crop up from time to time but are largely irrelevant - especially in the workplace where people typically have professional relationships rather than intimate friendships.

I think many would see Pride a bit differently if it was something more like an event mainly for the group, like a Catholic fish fry - something important and fun to many Catholics, but not defining or meant to be for others.

Pride instead seems to be something everyone is expected to be supportive of, it's in shops everywhere, it's a whole month! Kids celebrate it in school, etc. It's a bit much, imagine if it was some other festival or observance of a small group that for some reason became the litnus test for everyone being a good person.

it’s not the straight middle aged men wearing dresses that are getting raped or murdered. It is almost entirely trans-identified young gay men

In the UK nearly all the trans murders (about seven over the last 15 years) have been prostitution or drug debt related by people known to them, including one by a trans-identified partner.

I think many would see Pride a bit differently if it was something more like an event mainly for the group, like a Catholic fish fry - something important and fun to many Catholics, but not defining or meant to be for others.

Pride set up as a protest, to get laws changed and to change attitudes.

Arguably, those objectives have been largely achieved.

Which means it has become a corporate pinkwashing exercise, combined queasily with increasingly fetish-based displays. Something for a hen night to go along and get pissed at.

Where homophobia still exists, I don't think Pride marches are having any effect on it.

Same across the world. It’s vulnerable people not middle aged men who are so powerful and entitled they think it outrageous to be told no when wanting to walk around with their ladyboner in front of little girls getting ready for swimming lessons.

Pride set up as a protest, to get laws changed

Which is the reason why the police and public sector organisations should have nothing to do with pride.

Sorry didn’t mean to go off on a tangent just that post reminded me how mad I get when people treat confused gay, abused or autistic kids like they’re the same as AGPs. Of course we need to protect them from themselves and protect women from all trans-identified males but it isn’t the same thing.

Yes, it is true that the middle-aged heterosexual men have taken over the cause.
But one thing I would add (probably controversial here) is that I have seen the effects of trans ideology on confused young AGP boys too. A teenage boy (relative of a friend) who was a quiet, geeky type got led down the path to transition, when I think it was probably clear that he was AGP (as he was heterosexual).

I get the feeling that the middle-aged men who know exactly what is going on, don't tell younger individuals the truth and lead them down these paths.

I agree; there are definitely young (late teens upwards) AGP males identifying as trans, too. And they think that lesbians (not real ones, the ones they've seen in porn) will want to have sex with them.

You won't get any flack from me.

Young people can find themselves with inappropriate thoughts and desires around sex. It happens. And because our culture is so saturated with it, it is even more likely that this things will have a chance to trigger an immature and inexperienced brain.

A healthy society tried to create boundaries and ways of behaving that minimize this, as much as possible. It won't be perfect, but it will help. Things like, it's not appropriate to indulge certain kinds of behaviour in public, or it's a good thing to try and avoid certain kinds of thoughts, or even images. Anything that helps prevent escalation, and increases self-awareness.

Instead we have a sex saturated society where it's largely divided from any biological function, and the idea that any thoughts are fine and good and non-harmful, and anything people consent to is ok, and others need to affirm your sexual identity which is a Very Important Part of who you are.

It's like a master plan to turn kids into adult perverts at as high a rate as possible, before they are old enough to understand the problem.

Pleased to see that my local Tesco just has the original rainbow flags up.
So much easier on the eye than the horrible migraine inducing 'progress' version.

Ramps yes - but the station is only attended in the mornings. There are no toilets. The waiting room is only open when the stationmaster is there. Otherwise it is a very cold, exposed platform. The announcements are loud and clear, which is handy as most trains are late running and there are always lots of cancellations!

Well at least they have ramps...
So much easier to put up some garish bunting in order to tick the 'inclusion' box than actually ensure stations are fully accessible to all

I am just being cynical and angry. I encounter so many people in my daily life who cannot take full part in public life because the modifications and arrangements – some of which are quite minor – that could be made to accommodate them are just not made. By the very companies that fly these rainbow flags.

Controversially, the people causing major issues are not the late transitioners. Its the young university students who are non binary or gender queer.

And I know that because I am part of the LGBTQ community. You are all simply reading scare stories but in most cases have no understanding of what you are talking about.

You mean all train stations do have disabled access?

It would be breathtakingly arrogant to assume that we "all" are simply reading scare stories and have no first hand experience of the issues discussed here.

I’m not sure why my comment was deleted I was just agreeing with @PeppercornMill about having seen it in teenage boys too 🤷

To misquote Jesus, the monitors are always with us @TicklishLemur

Then you would know it is not the late transitioners causing most of the issues.

What 'issues' are you referring to, out of interest? And are you prepared to be more specific about what kind of 'member of the LGBTQ community' you are?

I am a lesbian, and I think the late transitioners are causing a LOT of issues. At least the young university students have the excuse of being young and ignorant, as we all once were.