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KJK supports Trump

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NefertitiV · 31/05/2024 02:36

After the Trump verdict today, KJK retweeted three supportive tweets to her timeline, including one from US ex-Fox host Megyn Kelly that says "Guilty on all counts. The country is disgraced. Alvin Bragg should be disbarred. They will rue the day they released this lawfare to corrupt a presidential election."

Another tweet makes fun of President Biden's stutter.

This is someone currently up for election herself. Given her recent remarks about barring rentals to all trans people, and the fact she has received funding from US conservative political groups, does this concern you?

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CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 16:34

MalagaNights · 31/05/2024 15:33

I'm confused: it's Biden who supports TWAW, self ID, transing kids, removal of title IX, men in womens sports and prisons...but supporting him is the correct position for women interested in women's rights...??

Or should women only vote for RFK or not vote? Please inform of us of The Only Correct Position immediately.

Trump is sexual predator who personally treats women badly (but have you read the stories about Biden...?) but at least he knows what a women is.

The there's the abortion issue- where women have differing opinions...imagibe!?!?

Why is there an assumption that Biden is the better choice for women?
Why is there an assumption that given the range of issues for women all women will agree?
Why is there an assumption that you can think this legal case has been conducted in a way that undermines democracy and that means you love Trump?
Why is there an assumption women on this board are,or should be, left wing?
Why is there an assumption that the left are better on women's issues?

Such boring tireosme simplistic foolish assumptions. Again.

KJK is just over caring about your assumptions, while you are still outraged.

I'm not American.
Criticising Trump =/= liking Biden. It is possible to not like either, especially in the UK where we have no say and no real skin in the game.

Trump is anti-democratic, populist bordering on fascist in my opinion. I wouldn't vote for any politician who said they supported him. It would be a vote changing issue for me.

Some reading for the posters about to be outraged at me mentioning the F word:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpism

Some commentators have rejected the populist designation for Trumpism and view it instead as part of a trend towards a new form of fascism or neo-fascism, with some referring to it as explicitly fascist and others as authoritarian and illiberal. [60][20][62][note 3] Others have more mildly identified it as a specific light version of fascism in the United States.[66][31]

MalagaNights · 31/05/2024 16:34

Scavernick · 31/05/2024 16:28

Not the best move I think. Phillips is very popular and very experienced.

Edited

I'm wondering what kjk's rationale here is?

Scavernick · 31/05/2024 16:35

MalagaNights · 31/05/2024 16:31

It's all the: I knew she was right wing!!!
Outraged posts that are hilarious.

Yes. And it's only the right wing that currently know what a woman is.

And many right wing women are interested in women's issues.
You should get out more.

There are lots of women with different views who all care about women about.

This isn't the Left Wing Feminists Only because only we are correct about women board you wish it was.

THIS! 👏

mrshoho · 31/05/2024 16:35

Scavernick · 31/05/2024 16:29

We all know however that it's really because she's right wing she's unacceptable, and not really about the fact that Trump is worse for women than Biden

Yes this is very apparent.

Yes, we see it.

Scavernick · 31/05/2024 16:36

MalagaNights · 31/05/2024 16:34

I'm wondering what kjk's rationale here is?

I don't really 'get' this as a move and honestly worry that it may backfire.

MalagaNights · 31/05/2024 16:38

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 16:34

I'm not American.
Criticising Trump =/= liking Biden. It is possible to not like either, especially in the UK where we have no say and no real skin in the game.

Trump is anti-democratic, populist bordering on fascist in my opinion. I wouldn't vote for any politician who said they supported him. It would be a vote changing issue for me.

Some reading for the posters about to be outraged at me mentioning the F word:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpism

Some commentators have rejected the populist designation for Trumpism and view it instead as part of a trend towards a new form of fascism or neo-fascism, with some referring to it as explicitly fascist and others as authoritarian and illiberal. [60][20][62][note 3] Others have more mildly identified it as a specific light version of fascism in the United States.[66][31]

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Fair enough.
But other reasonable options are available.

Which is why kjk supporting Trump is not a denouncable offense of the type the OP implies.

SapphosRock · 31/05/2024 16:40

Yes to all this from @Brooks11

⬇️

I know you'll all not give a shit or accuse me of lying but I am just going to be really honest here. I am deeply GC and quite openly so to the point it has caused me issues at work. I used to find this board a real source of inspiration and courage.

I now find it embarrassing. The twisting and distancing and whataboutery on this thread is reminiscent of TRA tactics. A lot of you (not all of course) are coming off as really unable to apply any critical thinking.

Again, don't bother telling me I am trying to silence women or am a secret man.

Think what you like but I cannot believe that on a feminist board there are posters lining up to minimise the extreme misogyny Trump has repeatedly shown.

mountaingoatsarehairy · 31/05/2024 16:42

Are we talking three retweets ? It is not really a hanging crime.

has she tweeted about if she’s still standing in Kemptown (posh) and Woodinhdean (not posh)

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 16:42

PeppercornMill · 31/05/2024 15:36

This isn't a debate about Trump though. It is the guilt by association of someone who is gender critical and therefore anyone who supports KJK's GC views is somehow supporting Trump.

It's no different to saying Hitler was a vegetarian, because you support someone who is also a vegetarian you support the murder of 6 million people.

That's a huge strawman.
Read OPs post again. It is nothing to do with "gender critical" and just about KJK. She asked a question, which you could answer without getting aerated about "guilt by association".

Scavernick · 31/05/2024 16:42

Think what you like but I cannot believe that on a feminist board there are posters lining up to minimise the extreme misogyny Trump has repeatedly shown

I personally have not seen this but thanks for the scolding for the wrongthink.

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 16:44

Scavernick · 31/05/2024 15:37

It just seems to be a load of hot air to me that's all. So a woman who lots of women agree with on gender supports a man who many people find to be a bit of a horror show.
Does this mean that what she said about the lot of women and girls is wrong? Does it mean that women should denounce her?
She is right wing - she has never hidden that and it is a perfectly legitimate political position to hold despite what some would have you think. I am on the right I would say.
I do not agree with her on Trump, I do agree with her on gender. So what?
What is the big fucking deal here?

😂😂
She most definitely has hidden the fact she's right wing, in fact her supporters make a lot of how she "used to be a labour member". Go and read some of the older KJK threads and see the response posters got for saying she was right wing.

mountaingoatsarehairy · 31/05/2024 16:44

But also this is a woman who puts herself in danger to let women speak. Maybe she’s going tooooo farrrrrrrr but what do you want us to do OP ? Shout ‘burn her burn her’?

BezMills · 31/05/2024 16:45

Well @SapphosRock it seemed to me that not one single FWR regular has said anything nice about Trump.

A lot of new looking US posters have started some kind of weird US bunfight... that I can scarcely follow

Hugosmaid · 31/05/2024 16:46

My god is this going?

mountaingoatsarehairy · 31/05/2024 16:46

It does sounds a bit like ‘well she turned me into a newt’

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 16:46

BoreOfWhabylon · 31/05/2024 16:03

KJK's just announced that she will run against Jess Phillips!!!

Perfect. Why not run against one of the most feminist MPs who is an outspoken supporter of women?

KJK is an absolute knob if this is true.

mrshoho · 31/05/2024 16:50

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 16:44

😂😂
She most definitely has hidden the fact she's right wing, in fact her supporters make a lot of how she "used to be a labour member". Go and read some of the older KJK threads and see the response posters got for saying she was right wing.

A lot of GC women used to be Labour Party members. I wonder why a lot of GC women no longer are?? She's not hiding anything and she's not exactly on her own in this regard.

MalagaNights · 31/05/2024 16:51

Think what you like but I cannot believe that on a feminist board there are posters lining up to minimise the extreme misogyny Trump has repeatedly shown.

Not seen anyone do this.

Trump behaves appallingly towards women personally.
Like many presidents have done/do.
It's gross.

But when looking at policies rather than persoanl attitudes is he really that much worse than others? So much worse no women 'who centres women' should ever support him? And must be donounced by fellow women?

How is he so much worse?

We know how.
He's right wing and so is she.

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 16:51

mrshoho · 31/05/2024 16:50

A lot of GC women used to be Labour Party members. I wonder why a lot of GC women no longer are?? She's not hiding anything and she's not exactly on her own in this regard.

My point is previously I have been told very vociferously that KJK Is Not Right Wing and that I am smearing her for saying she is.
I think that many other posters have had a similar experience.

It's not news or a surprise to me she's right wing. Its just nice the gaslighting about it has stopped.

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 16:53

MalagaNights · 31/05/2024 16:51

Think what you like but I cannot believe that on a feminist board there are posters lining up to minimise the extreme misogyny Trump has repeatedly shown.

Not seen anyone do this.

Trump behaves appallingly towards women personally.
Like many presidents have done/do.
It's gross.

But when looking at policies rather than persoanl attitudes is he really that much worse than others? So much worse no women 'who centres women' should ever support him? And must be donounced by fellow women?

How is he so much worse?

We know how.
He's right wing and so is she.

Really? You think feminists hate Trump because he's right wing??

Interestingly polarised position there....

MalagaNights · 31/05/2024 16:54

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 16:51

My point is previously I have been told very vociferously that KJK Is Not Right Wing and that I am smearing her for saying she is.
I think that many other posters have had a similar experience.

It's not news or a surprise to me she's right wing. Its just nice the gaslighting about it has stopped.

Maybe it wasn't gaslighting maybe as the left have become more batshit crazy over the past few years she's found herself now within the group labelled right wing and is prepared to own it.

It's happened to a lot of us.

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 16:56

BezMills · 31/05/2024 16:45

Well @SapphosRock it seemed to me that not one single FWR regular has said anything nice about Trump.

A lot of new looking US posters have started some kind of weird US bunfight... that I can scarcely follow

This is the kind of post that I think caused OP to start the thread.
"Not one singular FWR regular has said anything nice about Trump" on a board where there are frequent name changes, is a bit like "I've never seen KJK say anything Trump adjacent".
It's probably not correct and just makes people want to prove the point when it turns out they were in fact right.

BezMills · 31/05/2024 16:56

Trump's a weird kind of republican. Not religious, not socially conservative, not what you'd call a family man, can't shoot, can't grill, prefers burgers to steak.

MalagaNights · 31/05/2024 16:56

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 16:53

Really? You think feminists hate Trump because he's right wing??

Interestingly polarised position there....

I think 'feminists' have more reason to hate any left wing candiate at the moment than they do Trump and yet they hate Trump more.

But there are many reasons to hate Trump. It's the special hate he gets that's revealing.

EasternStandard · 31/05/2024 16:57

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 16:51

My point is previously I have been told very vociferously that KJK Is Not Right Wing and that I am smearing her for saying she is.
I think that many other posters have had a similar experience.

It's not news or a surprise to me she's right wing. Its just nice the gaslighting about it has stopped.

Maybe it wasn’t ‘gaslighting’

I mean she seems to say how she feels so why bother with pretending on that

Also I get the sense you think KJK owes you something. It’s a bit much

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