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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Eddie Izzard Interview in the Times

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Igneococcus · 25/05/2024 07:18

Written by the sports writer who wrote several comments in the Times over the years supporting transwomen in female sports, so no surprise there is no challenge (that I can see) to Izzard's bletherings:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cbc9589d-2019-434e-8c60-0fa6ac854519?shareToken=2725d49866bad689752abad5ab7d085d

Eddie Izzard: ‘Trans people going back in a shell? Won’t happen’

Eddie Izzard (also answers to Suzy) has migrated from stand-up comedy to serious acting, with solo performances of Great Expectations and Hamlet. But the role the 62-year-old really wants is to be the first trans member of parliament. Interview by Mart...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cbc9589d-2019-434e-8c60-0fa6ac854519?shareToken=2725d49866bad689752abad5ab7d085d

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viques · 25/05/2024 17:52

May2024 · 25/05/2024 10:08

Couldn't get passed the photos to bother reading the article.

Anyway here's a pic of photo shopped Eddie V Eddie adjusting his tackle in a queue for the ladies.

Vile man.

Shows his burly shoulders better that coat. I wonder if he had to go up a few sizes.

I went off him big time when he boasted about bullying teen girls who weren't happy about him being in a female toilet. Because ffs Eddie, bullying young girls and writing about it later ? That’s exactly what mean middle aged men in the wrong place do. Teenage girls aren’t bothered by middle aged women in female toilets, but they are right to be worried about nasty spiteful middle aged men with burly shoulders, and guess what, you proved their point.

BezMills · 25/05/2024 17:56

SofaThrow · 25/05/2024 17:47

The kind of person whose three letters we are not allowed to type?

Edited

Ah, gosh - precisely

viques · 25/05/2024 17:59

The style of picture btw is exactly the same as used by Emily The Cyclist when they were trying to pretend they weren’t 6 foot 4 with massive cycling thighs, but were in fact a delicate , sensitive, ethereal wood nymph, with wind tossed locks and a soulful expression, gazing into the far distance hoping to catch a glimpse of their true self reflected in a woodland pool filled with unicorn tears.

Fools no one.

Lilacdew · 25/05/2024 18:08

Signalbox · 25/05/2024 07:38

But the role the 62-year-old really wants is to be the first trans member of parliament.

That’s tough luck for him isn’t it because Jamie Wallace got there first. Since TW are the most marginalised and oppressed people on the planet you’d think that TM would have taken the lead on trans people in politics but for some reason TW dominate. I wonder why that is?

I think the role the 62-year-old really wants is to be centre of attention at all times, under all circumstances, to a chorus of adulation. That man is desperate to be noticed.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 25/05/2024 19:12

BackToLurk · 25/05/2024 08:02

This. I was a massive Remainer, but he just used to make me cringe when he appeared on any political programme. Patronising and self-absorbed.

And like Stephen Fry, ‘a stupid person’s idea of what a clever person is’

I still cringe when I remember him on Question Time in that pink beret blathering on like an idiot 😂

MouseMinge · 25/05/2024 20:28

To be fair to Eddie Izzard Brighton is probably the most transphobic city in the whole country.

Oh, hang on. Sorry. The least. Probably the least. He lost there for the same reason he lost in Sheffield. It was all me, me, me and "don't I make a great woman?" (NO) and Trans everything.

Tom Gray off of Gomez won because he was the better candidate.

WickedSerious · 25/05/2024 20:50

Igneococcus · 25/05/2024 07:46

I don't think in all my life have I sat in an armchair striking that pose with my hand under the chin gazing wistfully into the distance.

Same here.

I must do better.

WickedSerious · 25/05/2024 20:57

May2024 · 25/05/2024 10:08

Couldn't get passed the photos to bother reading the article.

Anyway here's a pic of photo shopped Eddie V Eddie adjusting his tackle in a queue for the ladies.

Vile man.

Whilst wearing big boots.

WickedSerious · 25/05/2024 21:01

FrogTheWarrior · 25/05/2024 11:33

I think Eddie Izzard is brilliant.

MN anti trans brigade, less so.

Well there's lovely.

Tell your mum.

Nurber · 25/05/2024 21:17

Maddy70 · 25/05/2024 15:34

Why would trans people have an issue with you as a female wanting to present as a male

You didn’t read my post properly.

ResisterRex · 25/05/2024 22:38

viques · 25/05/2024 17:59

The style of picture btw is exactly the same as used by Emily The Cyclist when they were trying to pretend they weren’t 6 foot 4 with massive cycling thighs, but were in fact a delicate , sensitive, ethereal wood nymph, with wind tossed locks and a soulful expression, gazing into the far distance hoping to catch a glimpse of their true self reflected in a woodland pool filled with unicorn tears.

Fools no one.

😂

misscockerspaniel · 25/05/2024 22:58

It is half term, isn't it

PoppySeedBagelRedux · 26/05/2024 06:59

There were some good comments under that article but this is my favourite, talking about EI's inner woman comment:

It is odd. For Eddie seems to be a very short mini skirt, high heels and red lipstick. Which, to me, betrays his "inner male":all day long.

FrancescaContini · 26/05/2024 07:34

Great comment, @PoppySeedBagelRedux

Apollo441 · 26/05/2024 08:01

Eddie should stand in Newham. An area with a high Muslim population and English as a second language BUT also (according to the ONS) the area with the highest number of trans people in the UK. Many people have pointed out that the question in the last census was badly worded and open to misinterpretation as evidenced by a Muslim area with English as a second language coming top of the trans population. The ONS has responded, infront of a parliamentary committee, that there is NO fault in there methodology (because they are perfect and questioning anything trans is transphobic so they won't listen) so Eddie should go right ahead and stand in Newham, safe in the knowledge that the ONS has identified it as Trans central.

Freysimo · 26/05/2024 08:16

Martin Samuel user to be a sports writer for the Daily Mail, and a good one. No wonder he left if he wants to write this nonsense. It makes me wonder if all these people you thought were sensible might have a trans member of family. No other explanation.

CandidaAlbicans2 · 26/05/2024 09:58

@FrogTheWarrior No man, however they identify, should be in areas designated for women only. This is for safeguarding reasons because it's normally impossible to know who is going to be harmful to us in some way. Of course that doesn't mean that all men are wrong'uns.

To say that men are welcome in women's spaces provided they identify as women is an open door to those men who want to take advantage in some way. Take a male voyeur for example. Normally he would not be allowed in the women's loos, but the second he says "I identity as a woman" (whether he's lying or not) gives him free access to be a perv at some poor woman's expense. So, how do you know which ones are aye gee pees/pervs, and which ones are genuine "trans"? You don't. So even if all "genuine" TIMs are safe and respectful, the very fact they are actually men (they're only changing their external appearance to be more feminine, not their personality) means they should not be in women's spaces.

viques · 26/05/2024 10:44

CandidaAlbicans2 · 26/05/2024 09:58

@FrogTheWarrior No man, however they identify, should be in areas designated for women only. This is for safeguarding reasons because it's normally impossible to know who is going to be harmful to us in some way. Of course that doesn't mean that all men are wrong'uns.

To say that men are welcome in women's spaces provided they identify as women is an open door to those men who want to take advantage in some way. Take a male voyeur for example. Normally he would not be allowed in the women's loos, but the second he says "I identity as a woman" (whether he's lying or not) gives him free access to be a perv at some poor woman's expense. So, how do you know which ones are aye gee pees/pervs, and which ones are genuine "trans"? You don't. So even if all "genuine" TIMs are safe and respectful, the very fact they are actually men (they're only changing their external appearance to be more feminine, not their personality) means they should not be in women's spaces.

Exactly . It is telling that Eddie doesn’t realise this, and also telling that it hasn’t occurred to him that if by some mischance of us stepping momentarily into a parallel universe, he was elected to Parliament, then he would immediately be making it clear to 50% of his electorate that their views, safety and wellbeing were no concern of his.

I imagine that at least some of the women on the selection panel, even a Labour Party selection panel, would have felt uncomfortable with his views, which is perhaps why he wasn’t selected.

MarieDeGournay · 26/05/2024 10:58

Remember this in 2018?
A teen from Utah has caused a controversy online after she posted photos of her wearing a traditional Chinese dress known as a qipao — or cheongsam in Cantonese — to prom.
So it's cultural appropriation when a woman wears a woman's dress from a different culture.
When a man wears a woman's dress it's.... brave, progressive, authentic etc.

SidewaysOtter · 26/05/2024 14:47

It amazes me how menacing the standing picture looks. I mean, if you saw someone standing near you looking like that, you’d be a bit freaked out. I would, anyway.

But what amazes me the most is how this thread is still standing. Usually Eddie threads get zapped within hours because we haven’t been kind enough.

PotholesAnonymous · 26/05/2024 15:07

Like he's about to headbutt you @SidewaysOtter ?

SidewaysOtter · 26/05/2024 15:19

PotholesAnonymous · 26/05/2024 15:07

Like he's about to headbutt you @SidewaysOtter ?

It’s a stance that says “You got a problem with me? Have you? HAVE YOU?”

You know, just how women* stand all the time.

(*the human biological female ones)

Emotionalsupportviper · 26/05/2024 15:45

Nurber · 25/05/2024 07:54

Maybe you’ve just never been in ‘girl mode’ 😂😂😂

😂😂😂

Just what I thought!

Call yourself a wumman @Igneococcus - you should be ashamed! 😂

SinnerBoy · 26/05/2024 15:48

Signalbox · Yesterday 07:38

But the role the 62-year-old really wants is to be the first trans member of parliament.

That’s tough luck for him isn’t it because Jamie Wallace got there first.

Yes, I noticed that as well, curse your eyes for beating me to it! As for big boots, I was at the Northumberland County Show yesterday and it was a quagmire. Women with big boots, from army boots, to walking boots and wellies abounded. Good job Eddie wasn't there, he'd have had a conniption fit!

He may well not be a sexual predator, but a man who boasts of frightening teenaged girls in the ladies is certainly behaving inappropriately because of his sex. They almost certainly perceived him as just that and he seems to think that they bullied him.

SinnerBoy · 26/05/2024 15:49

Oh, I forgot - I only got halfway through that screed of self-serving twaddle, before I lost the will to live and closed the tab.