KJK is standing against Lloyd Russell-Mole in the General Election

[BoreOfWhabylon]

https://www.youtube.com/live/vHudcvW0bSQ?si=kj-pX6z_ioL6l3nj

Once again displaying your complete political ignorance of the topics covered by FWR.

And also you inability to educate yourself.

So as this is so difficult for you here is athread from a few years ago. It might help you being taken more seriously if you actually showed you were concerned enough to inform yourself.

Although of course you may struggle with the references in the thread, as the contributors all have a level of information about current feminism in the UK.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4662757-womens-place-uk-filia-event-the-elephant-ignored-yet-again?page=1

KIS is part of the WPUK, Actual Gender Critical Left, FiLia axis.(my emphasis)

The thread you linked to distinguished between FiLia and WPUK. Has something changed? There also seemed to be some disagreement about what went on between people who were there.

I read the OP. What a load of twaddle. It really is a cult of personality.

Anyway. What was your point about the Labour MPs? You've kind of plopped those names and run. I live near Bristol and Labour keep asking me to canvas for them so I have a valid reason to ask.

Anyway, just refreshed myself as to what you said. Your hypothesis: KIS is required to denigrate KJK. On the left you have to follow the party line. FiLIA, WPUK other examples.

My hypothesis: KIS knows JP well and is standing up for her friend by pointing out the blindingly obvious, which is JP is a big proponent of women's rights in parliament.

The thread you linked says nothing other than KJK fans don't like Labour. I know this. I just don't by into the whole "left wing plot" fear mongering.

You misspelt 'buy'.

She's choosing the candidates and constituencies with an obvious political sense for where she can make a splash and gain attention and publicity. Lloyd Moyle was such an obvious weak spot for Labour - with his intimidatory antics and general deranged behaviour. Starmer doesn't want attention drawn to his trans stance - as it is not a strong suit for him - and he has vulnerabiity in this area.

Maybe she's picked Jess Phillips constituency for the reason you intimate - . A large muslim vote might not take too well to Labour policy commitments and ideals around 'trans equality'. She might be angling to drive that wedge between the Muslim community and Labour even further: exposing the contradictions in being supposedly 'pro muslim' but at the same time being sold on gender ideology and virtually pro self id; as well as in favour of children being taught there are hundreds of genders.

The first paragraph of your post seems to make the case for standing against Starmer rather than Phillips

Just to add. Phillips’ Muslim constituents are well aware of her/the LP’s position because of the No Outsiders stuff.

Yeah, typo 😂not a common one I don't think

I think even a cursory google and glance at her twitter/youtube is unlikely to make her popular with Muslim candidates or those looking to vote for a ceasefire in Gaza.

It's not clear how this will pan out, but we don't have long to wait.
We live in quite interesting times.

This thread made me look at some of KJK 's recent videos. Laughing my head off at her playing 'You're History' by Shakespeare's Sister at LRM 's deselection!😂

I'm not far from Brum and if she does stand there, I'd be happy to assist in her campaign.

It's a cracking tune! The album is a bit up and down, preferred the second one, sorry this isn't obscure 90s music thread, I'll get me coat

You misspelt 'buy'.

Getting votes is not the point. She doesn't really expect to win anywhere. What she wants to do is highlight the issue of trans ideology and its impact upon women and children, and drive existing wedges further apart.

Middle class, secular ( or who wear their religion only very lightly) Muslims maybe...but the average muslim voter, as with the average UK voter in general, has not much clue about anything.

I’d like to see your evidence that the Muslim parents protesting outside a primary school in her constituency about the teaching of No Outsiders were secular and middle class.

What that provides is evidence that there is a wedge to be driven. That was a protest outside of a particular school.......It is an open goal for KJK and would give many muslims doubts about voting for Labour -even if they have not already turned their back because the Labour party supports the existence of Israel.

I didn’t suggest there wasn’t a wedge to be driven. I suggested that Muslims in JP’s constituency would already be aware of her views because of the protests. You seemed to think they wouldn’t unless they were middle-class and secular.

The obsession over a misspelt surname is quite ridiculous. I often have a vowel in my surname swapped for another and, while it's a bit annoying, I don't see it as some kind of slur! Even my bloody surgeon does it, and he's known me for a long time now, so we get on quite well. Unless he's trying to give out subliminal messages that he's really not that keen on me as his patient?! 🤔

My maiden name was equally tricky on the vowel front for some people too. 🤷‍♀️

Suggesting the Raynor / Rayner issue is a right / left issue is super-bonkers and likely goady.

I think we have crossed wires......

I'm thinking that most religious Muslims are not in support of trans ideology and its impact on women and children. The only Muslims who do support it are high profile political actors such as Zara Sultana and Hamsa Yousef and some students on university campuses; but as with the majority of the population, most muslim voters are not middle class urban elitists swept up into progressive politics.

I'm not muslim myself and so am not that close to the 'ground' - but i'm imagining most have little clue really about the full extent of the Labour party's position on 'trans rights'. If they are already fully aware - then KJK has an already open goal.

In elections, the amount of media airtime nationally is strictly controlled to the proportional size of the party. She's got no chance of getting airtime and she knows it. This is about clicks and videos on her YouTube channel. It's self promotion, not promoting "a cause"
drive existing wedges further apart.
I agree with this and I find the conscious attempt to divide society upsetting and unproductive. Culture wars are awful.

Why don't you do an AS for Raynor and see the political affiliation of posters who use it? It's really noticeable and quite baffling. Many also seem unable to spell Keir.

Also, pointing something out once is not "an obsession". Jumping on it and implying there must be an agenda because a particular poster said it might be.

As I said upthread, I think some of the things KJK has posted will be pretty repugnant to most Muslims. The "English girl in a kebab" video for example. The tweets on the WPUK page.

A quick scroll through her twitter shows she's pro-IDF too so that's likely to not appeal to Muslims who are leaving Labour due to their stance on Gaza.

I'd not rely on stereotypes of Muslims to assume they will flock to vote PoW on the basis of "single sex spaces". Especially not when Labour have already committed to protecting single sex spaces too.

Because I don't give a shit?

This board is FULL of spelling / grammatical mistakes in relation commonly-used words and phrases. Hence pedants' corner existing. You're reaching way too far on this one to suggest it's a right-leaning issue.

Also, speaking of Keir / Kier, how have you not noticed that those on both sides of the political divide who don't like him call him Keith? That's cross-politics ridiculousness!