KJK is standing against Lloyd Russell-Mole in the General Election

[BoreOfWhabylon]

https://www.youtube.com/live/vHudcvW0bSQ?si=kj-pX6z_ioL6l3nj

I am getting a whiff of entrapment Fluffy.

Are you suggesting MNHQ has been somehow played with their deletions/banning? They may like to know that

they were told this repeatedly

if memory serves MNHQ told the patrons of this board that they were allowing reports from people who were not on mumsnet and there were twitter accounts at the time from randoms telling their ‘fans’ to mass report

it worked…

Weird, isn't it?

Maybe I should start saying that they protesteth too much about having not reported?! And wanging on and on about it? 🤔🤷‍♀️

My first ever deletion was a one-word post that simply said 'No'.

Never been sure quite how that broke Talk Guidelines.

Other posters' posts have been deleted and re-instated. Stuff happens. It's a busy site, with moderation that reacts to reports. A 'pattern' of reports of a particular post or thread is relatively easy to engineer off-board, although MNHQ usually eventually get on top of it in the end. The Royal Family board is an example of this.

There are many things that could be said about Farage but he was very successful in achieving his main political ambition despite a lot of hatred directed at him.

Yes. His popularity completely passed me by until I saw how much everyone loved him on Gogglebox.

I think it was orchid who got deleted/banned for a "Bless".

Posters who weren't here back then wouldn't be aware of hard it was to post without deletion for a while.

I was deleted for correctly sexing someone, six or seven years ago under a different name.

Backalong, MNHQ was considering drinking the KoolAid and shutting us up, and the guidelines - and this might just be my memory - seemed to change quite frequently, be interpreted differently depending on who was on duty (or how many reports had come in), and made no sense at all.

Posters were perma-banned for saying things that are 100% acceptable now.

I was deleted upthread for using the phrase "useful idiots" and accept that it was a somewhat disrespectful phrase to use about posters using Mumsnet to moan about KJK. I should have worded my comment better.

I don't always agree with MNHQ but reckon that they manage a challenging role very well - especially given the political ramifications of standing up for women's rights in this misogynistic world. I was once deleted when someone reported me for for stating that the MP Lisa Nandy thought male born rapists should be in women's prisons. The post was reinstated when I forwarded the press reports of her saying it.

It's quite possible to discuss decisions with them and they always respond sensitively if you report vulnerable posters.

Oh my days, the mangling of language we had to do.

I miss the old posters. I do try to channel my inner lang et al.

I think the moderation hit an all-time low when it was decided you couldn't generalise, but neither could you be specific 😄

The real issue, of course, was the number of TRAs targeting Mumsnet advertisers to blackmail HQ into 'approved' site content.

Fortunately, as their credibility waned, so too did their power.

The real issue, of course, was the number of TRAs targeting Mumsnet advertisers to blackmail HQ into 'approved' site content

oh yes i forgot that

Yeah, I think the advertisers and MNHQ copped on to where the spending power on weekly groceries, clothes, accessories and furniture really lay ...

When you post something that is so patently untrue is it because you think we will be taken in by your acute analysis, or do you really not understand.

KJK clearly explained that here standing as an MP was to continue her activism, and part of doing that was to be a disrupter.

She talked about Farage, who personally failed to get elected as an MP, but changed the dialogue on Brexit etc..

She was talking about a tactic.

For anyone who is actually interested in what KJK has said (is it any wonder there are so many threads about her when so many try to distort what she has said - and then wonder why we end up laughing at them) I started a thread linking to the LWS on 26th.

This is because she explains, which some on FWR have asked about, what she thinks PoW could achieve.

If you are interested in facts you can listen to her KJK intro of about 15 minutes. Also refers to her comments there was another thread about.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5083363-lws-26-may-2024-has-an-intro-from-kjk-which-covers-the-concept-of-pow-as-activism-being-a-disrupter-and-that-video-clip

This isn't about being some unquestioning fan of KJK but absolutely about having threads on FWR being based on actual facts / statements, not the bizzare attempts at twisting what are more often than not really straightforward.

When you post something that is so patently untrue is it because you think we will be taken in by your acute analysis, or do you really not understand.

We had exactly the same misrepresentation issue on the KJK disapproval threads a while ago. No explanation was given then, either.

Oh for goodness sake 🤣
Another poster said it had useful context so I watched it.

I remember when we used to try not to start threads at weekends because there was a much higher chance of them being deleted.

I'm not "happy to have men in womens spaces". That's you misrepresenting me to get other readers to ignore what I posted.

I'm going back in time now, as I needed to remind myself what was said before responding to it, to make sure I'd not misremembered, as alleged.

On 23.04.24 @ 08.30, @AdamRyan said: '...from a purely personal perspective I don't care if I use a public toilet and a TW is in there.'

Now, I'm not sure how that can be interpreted as anything other than being fine with men in women's spaces. (To the detriment of women who can't share those spaces, for religious or personal reasons, I might add.)

I wouldn't normally go to this much effort, but I felt it was important to correct blatant lies about what I've said (the lie being that I was misrepresenting, which I was clearly not, as can be seen.) I think I'm due an apology, actually.

His "main political ambition" followed from many years of Nick Griffin in the BNP and Robert Kilroy Silk in UKIP.
He didn't come out of a vacuum, much as it might suit his ego to pretend he did

I suggest rather than falling for your hyperbole people watch the video.
She can't/won't apologise for using language many GC feminists found transphobic, preferring instead to claim "the left" are over sensitive and that because she isn't a landlord or employer her views aren't important

And she held Farage up as a very influential campaigner, failing to recognise that a) he built on other campaigners before him, b) a lot of brexit voters feel they were lied to and c) "populism" isn't all that popular with the majority.
As always, for the lurkers, watch her videos and decide for yourself.

I remember, after Maya's appeal ruling, the day when I wrote on here something about, 'men who say that they believe that they are women' and it was allowed to stand. Seismic (for me).

@NoWordForFluffy

Weird how I took your statement that you didn't report at face value, but you're doing everything you can to question what I'm saying about reporting on this board.

No, you really didn't.

Also this in response to one of my posts...

"But as I'm not the one all het up about toilets, that's luckily not my problem to solve."

'...from a purely personal perspective I don't care if I use a public toilet and a TW is in there.'

"Personal perspective" means regarding me, not all women.

"Don't care" is a neutral term, "happy" is a positive term.

"Public toilet" is one example of a "woman's space" not all womens spaces. I don't think its practical or possible to police them.

"TW" is a subset of men, not all men.

Saying "I'm happy to have men in womens spaces" is a gross distortion of my position. I think you are doing this to stop other posters considering what I say and its entirely inappropriate to pull posts across threads like that.

I'm not discussing toilets with you, other people can go and read the thread and decide for themselves what they think of my position