Emma Bunton

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Emma Bunton has posted a picture tribute for her son Tate's 13th birthday with a hashtag #shesmybaby. The 3 young people pictured all have long hair so my initial thought was 'her son must be trans'.

KJK has posted a video saying if she calls her son she/her then she's a child abuser. Not sure what to make of it. I get where KJK is coming from but child abuser?

I couldn't see any other threads on this.

Oh dear.

“Emma Bunton's situation probably falls into a comfortable little sweet spot of wanting to do right by her son (by affirming his confused wonderings), and enjoying that this is actually conveniently sTuNnINg and bRAyVe.
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I wonder if her son told her he wanted to join the Catholic priesthood as soon as he was old enough, would she have him posing with the Eucharist and a copy of the Canon Law? Probably not, as its not cool and she would assume that there would be a good chance he'd change his mind.”

That is a very interesting and astute observation, darkdiamond.

Grrrr and stuff.

She doesn't plaster them across social media, she's hardly Katie Price.

I'll let my DSs know as well, I think they'll be surprised

I do hope that "learn from my mistakes" is another of her top parenting tips. Though I wouldn't be going to a pop star for insights into parenting except Ozzy Osbourne of course. "I love you more than life itself but YOU'RE DOING MY HEAD IN" captures parenting perfectly.

I'll let my DSs know as well, I think they'll be surprised

Well if your DS is asking you to call him she then maybe not that surprising.

Allowing your child to believe they are the opposite sex and facilitating them dressing/behaving as such IS child abuse.

Trouble is as the trans thing gets more and more discredited especially around children (thank God) how do these celebs get off this ridiculous bandwagon without looking like utter fools. KJK is spot on.

They notice the golden bridge and they take it quietly and without fanfare.

If they've well and truly had a change of heart, then they cross the bridge to a fanfare and embark on a media tour to explain how they came to this realisation. They plausibly explain that they came to realise the evidence had been misrepresented to them or that their natural empathy had caused them to overlook the consequences for women's rights and for safeguarding children.

I'm sure celebrities have media specialists who can work out a strategy that minimises loss of face and may even boost their social credit.

@goldenshred congratulations on one of the most offensive and unnecessary posts I’ve seen. Words like ‘abuse’ and ‘cult’ are just a ridiculous over-reaction.

Your Thalidomide reference is beyond tasteless.

Righto

I think what PP meant was that babies born with what used to be called 'abnormalities' and are now more usually referred to as disorders, does not mean that it's fine to remove healthy body parts, or that sex can be changed.

It is damaging to tell your child that lie.

Why are you saying that?

The poster was making a perfectly valid point, using a known occurrence, to explain the difference between accidents or disorders at birth, and the misuse of the fact they exist as a reason for harmful practices on a healthy body or mind.

There are some people born without arms, and some people who want their healthy arms cut off because of a dysphoric sense about them, or a fetish.

I agree. At the same time, I've always had my reservations about KJK.

Calling something offensive is not an argument.

Abuse is absolutely the correct term btw. Children are not able to give consent or make informed decisions about these sorts of things - this is why having sex with a child is always rape.

I completely disagree that abuse is the right term.

We can hold different opinions, but language matters. Emma Bunton is clearly a very loving mother who is wanting to support her child. Calling her actions abuse is not ok.

What is telling your child that their healthy body is innately wrong then? Spectacularly bad parenting?

So language matters, except when you're calling a boy girl.

I'm not willing to call parents doing what they are told by doctors and supposed experts is the right thing, abusers. I can be rather blunt at times, but I think that is a shit thing to do.

I don't know what EB was told by the people around her, or whether she was pushing for something, or what, but it is certainly not the case that this only happens with kids if the parents are the main pushers. Plenty pick it up in school.Nor do I know to wht extent EB is someone who would feel able to go outside of what the experts advised her and do her own research. Not everyone is equally able at that kind of thing.

By all means call the protocols and advice and ideologies anti-scientific, dangerous, wrongheaded, or even perverse. But unless KJK is quite sure that she could never, in the face of expert advice, make a real error with regards to her kids medical treatments, I think she is being a bit of a shit in this instance.

And any parent who is aware of their vulnerability to errors where their kids best interests are concerned will be less likely to see her as a down to earth lady protecting kids and more likely to see her as a blowhard know it all.

Have you read the Cass report? Scientific research says that Transing children is definitely not recommended . They are probably gay or have a mental illness

And what does that have to do with the price of fish? The Cass report has been around for all of five minutes. Mums have been advised by doctors for years now that they need to affirm. Cass hasn't even filtered down in a complete way through the medical community, or to create new policy, why would you think that regular mothers would be up on all of it?

Many many people do not decide what to do about medical questions by investigating the research themselves. They rely on what their doctors - not any doctors, but the specific ones they entrust their kids care to - have told them. I don't see why a singer in a pop band for teen girls would be expected to somehow be above that, she is a regular mum in the end.